Did Performance Dampers get deleted from '24 L & UL?
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Did Performance Dampers get deleted from '24 L & UL?
I just went to Lexus dotcom to look up a detail for another thread. I noticed something interesting: On both the hybrid and the ES 350, performance dampers are listed under "Chassis/Rear Suspension" for F Sport Handling models, but no longer for Luxury or Ultra Luxury with either powertrain.
I wonder if Lexus quietly yanked them from this soon-discontinued model in one of those cost-saving moves that escapes press and public notice. I know some have questioned their benefits, but I have to think that a company with a billion-dollar test track and a history of using this option on other models was able to test them and determine they brought something to the party, before deciding to add them to the top ES models in 2019, as they'd already done with some of their costliest cars. If they are gone, I think it's a bit of a bummer.
I wonder if Lexus quietly yanked them from this soon-discontinued model in one of those cost-saving moves that escapes press and public notice. I know some have questioned their benefits, but I have to think that a company with a billion-dollar test track and a history of using this option on other models was able to test them and determine they brought something to the party, before deciding to add them to the top ES models in 2019, as they'd already done with some of their costliest cars. If they are gone, I think it's a bit of a bummer.
#3
This is strange. On the Lexus trim comparison page it shows performance dampers on the Ultra Luxury 300h and not the Luxury 300h. However both the Luxury and Ultra Luxury have performance dampers showing for the 350. When I checked the same thing in March, performance dampers were listed for the Luxury 300h. Maybe Lexus has a glitch in its code giving inconsistent results?
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I just went to Lexus dotcom to look up a detail for another thread. I noticed something interesting: On both the hybrid and the ES 350, performance dampers are listed under "Chassis/Rear Suspension" for F Sport Handling models, but no longer for Luxury or Ultra Luxury with either powertrain.
I wonder if Lexus quietly yanked them from this soon-discontinued model in one of those cost-saving moves that escapes press and public notice. I know some have questioned their benefits, but I have to think that a company with a billion-dollar test track and a history of using this option on other models was able to test them and determine they brought something to the party, before deciding to add them to the top ES models in 2019, as they'd already done with some of their costliest cars. If they are gone, I think it's a bit of a bummer.
I wonder if Lexus quietly yanked them from this soon-discontinued model in one of those cost-saving moves that escapes press and public notice. I know some have questioned their benefits, but I have to think that a company with a billion-dollar test track and a history of using this option on other models was able to test them and determine they brought something to the party, before deciding to add them to the top ES models in 2019, as they'd already done with some of their costliest cars. If they are gone, I think it's a bit of a bummer.
24 Hybrid Luxury. No dampers. 24 Hybrid Ultra Luxury. Does have them
them.
Last edited by UltraLux22; 06-07-24 at 05:02 AM.
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The evidence seems to point to the deletion of performance dampers to some extent for the 2024 ES Luxury. The brochure for the 2023 model year lists performance dampers as a feature for the Luxury. The 2024 version lists performance dampers only for the Ultra Luxury. As far as I can tell neither version distinguishes the 350 from the 300h with regard to that feature. Maybe UltraLux22's information is more accurate since it is more specific, only the 300h lacks dampers.
Last edited by Myshkyn; 06-04-24 at 07:10 PM.
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I just went to Lexus dotcom to look up a detail for another thread. I noticed something interesting: On both the hybrid and the ES 350, performance dampers are listed under "Chassis/Rear Suspension" for F Sport Handling models, but no longer for Luxury or Ultra Luxury with either powertrain.
I wonder if Lexus quietly yanked them from this soon-discontinued model in one of those cost-saving moves that escapes press and public notice. I know some have questioned their benefits, but I have to think that a company with a billion-dollar test track and a history of using this option on other models was able to test them and determine they brought something to the party, before deciding to add them to the top ES models in 2019, as they'd already done with some of their costliest cars. If they are gone, I think it's a bit of a bummer.
I wonder if Lexus quietly yanked them from this soon-discontinued model in one of those cost-saving moves that escapes press and public notice. I know some have questioned their benefits, but I have to think that a company with a billion-dollar test track and a history of using this option on other models was able to test them and determine they brought something to the party, before deciding to add them to the top ES models in 2019, as they'd already done with some of their costliest cars. If they are gone, I think it's a bit of a bummer.
After my extended absence, I come bearing jokes. Feel free to heckle – what else can you do? HA!
Lexus ES Dampers: So Exclusive, They're Not Even Invited to the Base Model Party!
Lexus ES Dampers: So Exclusive, They're Like the VIP Section of Your Suspension. (No Base Models Allowed!) Another? Ok!
Lexus ES Dampers: They're like the VIPs of the ES lineup—so exclusive that they don't even mingle with the base models. One more??? OK, you twisted my arm!
Lexus ES Dampers: They're so smooth that even your coffee won't spill—unless you're in the base model. Another? Ok!
Another one?? ok but last one! Lexus ES Dampers: They're the velvet rope to the VIP section of your suspension... sorry base models, but your name's not on the list.
I'm done now. You're welcome!
2024 Model/Trim(s) with Performance Dampers:
ES 350/250 Luxury, Ultra Luxury, F Sport Handling
ES 300h Ultra Luxury, F Sport Handling
Excluded Trims: All ES Base trim, the Design variant of the F Sport trim (regardless of engine), and the 300h Luxury
⬆️ Performance dampers are listed in the Feature column/Performance section for those trims of ES that are so equipped. The 300 Luxury is excluded in 2024. ⬆️
⬆️ In this section, performance dampers for the F Sport (trim) Handling (variant) are listed under the Specs column/Chassis section. The 350/300 F Sport Handling is the only ES trim ⬆️
with performance dampers listed under two different sections, Specs/Chassis and Features/Performance, and listed as installed on both the front and rear suspension.
⬆️ 2022 ES trims with performance dampers as standard equipment. The 300 Luxury was included. ⬆️
Last edited by UltraLux22; 06-05-24 at 08:48 PM.
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@UltraLux22 Do you have the same chart for 2023? I did a Google search but couldn't find it. Thanks for the info!
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@UltraLux22 Do you have the same chart for 2023? I did a Google search but couldn't find it. Thanks for the info!
Now this isn't a fantasy movie but you will have to "Follow the Yellow Brick Line!"
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I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't; as I have seen F-Sport trims at my dealer without Tri-LED, Steering F-Badge, F-Sport seats, and no chrome pedals.
Edit: Maybe some dealers ordering page have the ability to add or remove some parts to adjust cost $.
Last edited by scubapr; 06-06-24 at 04:09 PM. Reason: edit note