View Poll Results: Based on Mileage Only: Oil & Filter Change Intervals
5,000 miles
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68.29%
10,000 miles - manufacturer recommended
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Other. (Please explain)
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4
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Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll
Oil change Interval Poll ES 350 V6
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Why you need to write all this just to convince me/make me a liar in front of others?
I don’t care about the Model Y. I care about the 2016 Model S (for example) - so oil change, oil filter change, 12V battery, brake fluid, cabin filter…
Now, Model Y, any depreciation?
I don’t care about the Model Y. I care about the 2016 Model S (for example) - so oil change, oil filter change, 12V battery, brake fluid, cabin filter…
Now, Model Y, any depreciation?
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That's a disingenuous argument and you know it.
For Tesla motors that have an oil filter: The motors need a filtration system for fluid health and It was easier and cheaper for Tesla at the time to just source an external filter from an outside supplier. Tesla though evolves quick and has since deleted the external filters and integrated them inside the motor for 2024 models -- same motors more or less. So yeah current Teslas don't have external filters anymore. They're internal now. And they aren't a part of regular owner maintenance. They are not called for the owner to replace. They just exist. In the same way your ICE engines have bearings in them. I don't go and shout "Oh your engine has bearings! gotta replace them!"
Brake fluid -- same thing. Optional -- but it is brakes so tesla recommends you check every 4 years for corrosion. Brakes are never ever touched on a Tesla anyway. This means my wheels stay clean. I almost never touch my brake pedal. I get incredibly powerful braking from magnets alone =)
There is effectively zero maintenance on a Tesla unless you want to argue car washes are maintenance. Then sure. or replacing your wiper blades.
I have plenty of friends with 60-100k mile Teslas who have never lifted a finger other than replacing tires. I'm in the tesla community every day and nobody is replacing oil filters lol. So either you know that's a bold face lie or you need to learn.
There's several Model 3s popping up with 300k-400k miles now, without anything but new tires.
And a 12V battery (Teslas since 2022 don't have your typical ICE car 12V battery anymore) is a consumable item. Something you replace every 5-8 years--disingenuous to consider that regular maintenance. a stretch. My 2023 and later Teslas use a 16V lithium ion battery. it's about half the size of a pack of baby wipes. i don't think the 16v will ever need replacing during my ownership but if it does its just a pull tab and a couple bolts lol.
But again... we're talking about oil changes on this thread and my comment was purely the best interval is no interval and I still stand by it.
Put it this way, I haven't changed any oil for over a year now and it's a wonderful thing.
For Tesla motors that have an oil filter: The motors need a filtration system for fluid health and It was easier and cheaper for Tesla at the time to just source an external filter from an outside supplier. Tesla though evolves quick and has since deleted the external filters and integrated them inside the motor for 2024 models -- same motors more or less. So yeah current Teslas don't have external filters anymore. They're internal now. And they aren't a part of regular owner maintenance. They are not called for the owner to replace. They just exist. In the same way your ICE engines have bearings in them. I don't go and shout "Oh your engine has bearings! gotta replace them!"
Brake fluid -- same thing. Optional -- but it is brakes so tesla recommends you check every 4 years for corrosion. Brakes are never ever touched on a Tesla anyway. This means my wheels stay clean. I almost never touch my brake pedal. I get incredibly powerful braking from magnets alone =)
There is effectively zero maintenance on a Tesla unless you want to argue car washes are maintenance. Then sure. or replacing your wiper blades.
I have plenty of friends with 60-100k mile Teslas who have never lifted a finger other than replacing tires. I'm in the tesla community every day and nobody is replacing oil filters lol. So either you know that's a bold face lie or you need to learn.
There's several Model 3s popping up with 300k-400k miles now, without anything but new tires.
And a 12V battery (Teslas since 2022 don't have your typical ICE car 12V battery anymore) is a consumable item. Something you replace every 5-8 years--disingenuous to consider that regular maintenance. a stretch. My 2023 and later Teslas use a 16V lithium ion battery. it's about half the size of a pack of baby wipes. i don't think the 16v will ever need replacing during my ownership but if it does its just a pull tab and a couple bolts lol.
But again... we're talking about oil changes on this thread and my comment was purely the best interval is no interval and I still stand by it.
Put it this way, I haven't changed any oil for over a year now and it's a wonderful thing.
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I voted ‘Other’ because now that the wife and I are both retired, I replace the oil on a yearly basis. Usually that comes out to be in the 6K-8K miles range.
Note, nothing wrong with another oil thread. People’s opinions change and new oil technologies develop. If one is annoyed with a new oil thread, one can skip it.
Note, nothing wrong with another oil thread. People’s opinions change and new oil technologies develop. If one is annoyed with a new oil thread, one can skip it.
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Ditto … Work from home most days so don’t drive as much commuting. Did the first change at 800 miles then every 6-months or 5,000 miles whichever comes first.
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Always used .Mobil 1 a d always changed at 10,000. Between both vehicles have on multiple vehicles 1 6 million miles and of course no engine problems. No offense but I will be guilded by no one here but the manufacturer of my vehicle and oil for 10,000 miles. Two guys out on YouTube with Toyota Tundra pickups with over 1.5 million miles on each. When asked with original engine what was your engine oil interval schedule both said 10,000 miles what Toyota says I use synthetic oil.
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2017 ES350 here. just had an oil changed done last Sunday. This last oil change was 7 month ago and I drove 3.5K miles. I always 5 quart jug of Mobil 1 0-20 and 1.5 quarts of Walmart Supertech 0-20, and OEM Toyota oil filter. BTW, she just hits 45K as of yesterday.
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I (personally) will be making the 1st oil change on our '24 3.5L at 1000 miles (and ill be sending a sample of that drained oil to BlackStone-Labs)
I will make the next oil change at 6,000 miles and sending that sample off too, I'll be looking at wear indicators, remaining lubrication chemicals and viscosity on that sample.
I had a ford diesel - where ford recommended oil change intervals of 7500 miles - and my testing samples proved NO OIL (not even amsoil for those who love that crap) could sustain invalid of more than 6000 miles....every oil (including full synthetics) was sheered to a very low viscosity....Personally I'm an advocate of changing it more frequently than trying to get more mileage out of it.
With my ford diesel you could not justify the added expense of synthetics....because of the sheering reported in the lab samplings.
I will make the next oil change at 6,000 miles and sending that sample off too, I'll be looking at wear indicators, remaining lubrication chemicals and viscosity on that sample.
I had a ford diesel - where ford recommended oil change intervals of 7500 miles - and my testing samples proved NO OIL (not even amsoil for those who love that crap) could sustain invalid of more than 6000 miles....every oil (including full synthetics) was sheered to a very low viscosity....Personally I'm an advocate of changing it more frequently than trying to get more mileage out of it.
With my ford diesel you could not justify the added expense of synthetics....because of the sheering reported in the lab samplings.
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EXACTLY! Most of these keyboard experts saying it's fine to run 10k, or more using synthetic, are only guess w/out proper sampling/analysis.
Ive never seen (1st or even 2nd hand) scientific proof (marketing isnt the proof I need) that the added expense of synthetics justified the longer change intervals....I dont even look at it anymore but synthetics can run 3x conventional and theres NO WAY I'm gonna run any synthetic for 30,000 miles (just to break even).....
When I saw lubricating properties depleted and sheering occurring (via proper sampling/analysis) even w/ "the best" synthetics it only re-affirmed that the expense of synthetics could not be justified.
Change it, Change it Often (test it, even occasionally, for confirmation of wear and lubricity) is the best method for insuring longevity!
Ive never seen (1st or even 2nd hand) scientific proof (marketing isnt the proof I need) that the added expense of synthetics justified the longer change intervals....I dont even look at it anymore but synthetics can run 3x conventional and theres NO WAY I'm gonna run any synthetic for 30,000 miles (just to break even).....
When I saw lubricating properties depleted and sheering occurring (via proper sampling/analysis) even w/ "the best" synthetics it only re-affirmed that the expense of synthetics could not be justified.
Change it, Change it Often (test it, even occasionally, for confirmation of wear and lubricity) is the best method for insuring longevity!
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