Stock Tires on ES
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#33
The MPG difference for the 2024 camry hybrid :
LE with 16" wheels 52 MPG combined HW/City
SE with 18" wheels 46 MPG combined HW/City
I'm willing to bet wheels/tires are a big part of it.
Last edited by hotwings; 08-16-24 at 10:46 AM.
#34
light wheels=expensive and prone to damage. that means more warranty claims. bad for business.
large wheels=nicer, helps sell cars
at the end of the day it's a business. a balance is struck between profit margins and fuel economy targets and everything else. it's all packaging with the overall aim at making shareholders happy, as with any other business.
Given es300h can achieve 40 ish mpg with large heavy wheels and tires is great already. i would not compromise its looks with dorky tiny wheels and tires just so i can say i get 42mpg lol. not to mention while paying more to do so.
large wheels=nicer, helps sell cars
at the end of the day it's a business. a balance is struck between profit margins and fuel economy targets and everything else. it's all packaging with the overall aim at making shareholders happy, as with any other business.
Given es300h can achieve 40 ish mpg with large heavy wheels and tires is great already. i would not compromise its looks with dorky tiny wheels and tires just so i can say i get 42mpg lol. not to mention while paying more to do so.
#35
light wheels=expensive and prone to damage. that means more warranty claims. bad for business.
large wheels=nicer, helps sell cars
at the end of the day it's a business. a balance is struck between profit margins and fuel economy targets and everything else. it's all packaging with the overall aim at making shareholders happy, as with any other business.
Given es300h can achieve 40 ish mpg with large heavy wheels and tires is great already. i would not compromise its looks with dorky tiny wheels and tires just so i can say i get 42mpg lol. not to mention while paying more to do so.
large wheels=nicer, helps sell cars
at the end of the day it's a business. a balance is struck between profit margins and fuel economy targets and everything else. it's all packaging with the overall aim at making shareholders happy, as with any other business.
Given es300h can achieve 40 ish mpg with large heavy wheels and tires is great already. i would not compromise its looks with dorky tiny wheels and tires just so i can say i get 42mpg lol. not to mention while paying more to do so.
One supporting source: Unsprung weight
Yes I agree more people prefer the larger wheels/tires but the science does not support it.
Yes I agree they can look better in some cases. But If I had my choice I'd pick the sensible option.
Car makers are chasing their tails trying to get marginal improvements in MPG and then blowing it on the impractical extra weight of larger tires
Last edited by hotwings; 08-16-24 at 01:46 PM.
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