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They will probably reintroduce the power folding mirrors in the 2020 ES. Lexus is known for purposely holding back on features the first year of a new generation. They did this with the 2013 lexus GS. 2014 had power folding mirrors, power trunk, automatic heated and cooled front seats, 2013 did not.
They will probably reintroduce the power folding mirrors in the 2020 ES. Lexus is known for purposely holding back on features the first year of a new generation. They did this with the 2013 lexus GS. 2014 had power folding mirrors, power trunk, automatic heated and cooled front seats, 2013 did not.
Reintroduce? It never made it to the last gen in the US. The memory seats have a better chance, since they just took them away. I'm holding out for a sunglass holder!
They will probably reintroduce the power folding mirrors in the 2020 ES. Lexus is known for purposely holding back on features the first year of a new generation. They did this with the 2013 lexus GS. 2014 had power folding mirrors, power trunk, automatic heated and cooled front seats, 2013 did not.
I wouldn't not hold your breath since the 2018 model has had the mirrors abroad
They will probably reintroduce the power folding mirrors in the 2020 ES. Lexus is known for purposely holding back on features the first year of a new generation. They did this with the 2013 lexus GS. 2014 had power folding mirrors, power trunk, automatic heated and cooled front seats, 2013 did not.
I agree as we have a 2013 GS. In my opinion Lexus is lucky Infinity got out of the LS size car and the Acura RLX is such a small car. Really the only thing Lexus has going for it is they are cheaper to own and and maintain than Audi, BWM and MB. I am currently trying to decide between purchasing a LS 500, ES or ? After waiting for the LS 500 to arrive there are so many disappointing features, less headroom, no v8, nav issues, no pass thru, etc. it's sad that Lexus seems to not care about giving the US market what they want. And not offering things like the folding mirrors, etc, I think in their mind will make some people trade in their 2019's when they make these things available
I get the concern and wondering why they did it - penny pinching? Hard to believe.
Before you attribute malice, don't rule out rabid penny pinching... It could be down to a product segmentation "expert" making dumb decisions to differentiate the ES from the GS and LS. It seems all overseas ES models, 6th gen and 7th gen, come with folding mirrors at all trim levels. It's the US cars that are missing this feature even in Ultra Luxury spec.
For goodness sake, my car came without memory seats and it had a black and white center display yet it still has power folding mirrors.
I agree as we have a 2013 GS. In my opinion Lexus is lucky Infinity got out of the LS size car and the Acura RLX is such a small car. Really the only thing Lexus has going for it is they are cheaper to own and and maintain than Audi, BWM and MB. I am currently trying to decide between purchasing a LS 500, ES or ? After waiting for the LS 500 to arrive there are so many disappointing features, less headroom, no v8, nav issues, no pass thru, etc. it's sad that Lexus seems to not care about giving the US market what they want. And not offering things like the folding mirrors, etc, I think in their mind will make some people trade in their 2019's when they make these things available
I think the 2013-2017 Lexus LS is better than the current generation. If I was in the market for it I's go with the previous generation.
1. The LS is too big for Indian roads, and a chauffeur is mandatory at that size. I don't even know if they sell LS in India for that matter.
2. Hence the ES becomes more of what the LS is in the US.
3. Hence the laundry list of options in India on the ES that are reserved for the LS here.
4. The price of the car, 59-69,00000 Local Rupeesin India translates to $90-95,000, which is LS territory here.
Typically, Toyota's and more so Lexus are really loaded and made expensive in India, as they have moved them up market compared to the way we look at Toyota and Lexus here in the US, especially compared to the German cars.
It all comes down to competitive markets. In India that sort of car has those features, as they do in China. Its more common to be driven in a car for instance, than it is in the US.
In the US, it is not common for a car at the ES' price point or competitive class to offer those sort of rear seat options...so they don't.
For years the LS had those features available in other markets but not here too, until the segment evolved and those sorts of things became more commonplace in the LS' competition in the US, so they brought them here. The LS400 had no rear seat recline or controls or anything here but it did overseas, when the LS430 came out those options were available here as well.
I'm shocked they're excluding that now. My crappy 2014 Hyundai Azera has them
We get many threads on here about what makes a carmaker a luxury brand vs a regular non-luxury brand and part of the reason is options or the accessories that comes with the car. A lot of the lower brand cars have options that the luxury cars are barely getting. Of course there's the badge and the refinement, but come on already with being so cheap.....I mean frugal
Here, lexus likes to give us US customers the middle finger....sometimes I don't get what lexus is thinking
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