Oil changes - every 10,000 miles? Even the first??
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Yes he did. One of the first thing out of his mouth was that the fluid has never been changed.
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This is the video by CCN.
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There are always isolated examples one way or the other. My friend has a 4Runner with darn near 300K miles - original trans and fluid. Never touched.
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Yep many of us in the old days on the BMW forums had many BMWs in the 300-600k range.. all original transmission never touched. then you had your failures at 100k miles too. though if you plan to keep your car long, a better idea than not to replace your transmission fluid. even if its partial.
new fluid>old fluid.
if you disagree, next time you buy a new car, ask the tech in back if he can drain out all the new factory fluid and instead replace it with old trans fluid with 100k miles before you sign the dotted line!
new fluid>old fluid.
if you disagree, next time you buy a new car, ask the tech in back if he can drain out all the new factory fluid and instead replace it with old trans fluid with 100k miles before you sign the dotted line!
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Yep many of us in the old days on the BMW forums had many BMWs in the 300-600k range.. all original transmission never touched. then you had your failures at 100k miles too. though if you plan to keep your car long, a better idea than not to replace your transmission fluid. even if its partial.
new fluid>old fluid.
if you disagree, next time you buy a new car, ask the tech in back if he can drain out all the new factory fluid and instead replace it with old trans fluid with 100k miles before you sign the dotted line!![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
new fluid>old fluid.
if you disagree, next time you buy a new car, ask the tech in back if he can drain out all the new factory fluid and instead replace it with old trans fluid with 100k miles before you sign the dotted line!
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Sure enough,
However, if you listen further into the video where The Car Care Nut goes into the symptoms of the old transmission's failure and the reasons for replacing rather than repairing it taken in context with his "THIS Is the Most Underrated Car Invention in 2023 | The Torque Converter" discussion, you don't have to be a super genius to arrive at the conclusion transmission fluid change status has absolutely nothing to do with the transmission failure and replacement decision.
The vibration and shifting shuddering are the symptoms of excessive heat warping of the torque converter. The replace versus repair decision was significantly, if not mostly, driven by the overall corrosion state of the transmission parts and fasteners. The overall corrosion state was such that it was fairly probable that there was going to be costly corrosion related problems that would have to be addressed during the repair work in addition to the work needed to fix the operational problems of the transmission.
NONE of those issues would be prevented by transmission fluid changing - no matter how frequent of fluid change interval one chooses. That transmission's design isn't adequate to handle the transmission fluid heat generated by the real world work loads the truck was experiencing. The externally exposed materials in the transmission's construction isn't sufficiently resistant to excessive corrosion damage from long term exposure to the Chicago area cold season heavy road salt use environment.
One of the first thing out of his mouth was that the fluid has never been changed.
The vibration and shifting shuddering are the symptoms of excessive heat warping of the torque converter. The replace versus repair decision was significantly, if not mostly, driven by the overall corrosion state of the transmission parts and fasteners. The overall corrosion state was such that it was fairly probable that there was going to be costly corrosion related problems that would have to be addressed during the repair work in addition to the work needed to fix the operational problems of the transmission.
NONE of those issues would be prevented by transmission fluid changing - no matter how frequent of fluid change interval one chooses. That transmission's design isn't adequate to handle the transmission fluid heat generated by the real world work loads the truck was experiencing. The externally exposed materials in the transmission's construction isn't sufficiently resistant to excessive corrosion damage from long term exposure to the Chicago area cold season heavy road salt use environment.
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Yeah, I knew a man who smoked 3 packs per day. He lived to be 95 and died n a car accident. Just proves smoking is healthy and highly recommended.
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Transmission fluid is slighty different. Whilst most people probably never change it, and follow the liftetime recommendation, quite a few heve learned not to trust this, and so change at around 80-100k. Mostly though that's the kind of people who are interested enough in cars to be on a forum, which of course most drivers aren't.
As far as I recall that's always been the case in my 40+ years of driving.
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You have no idea what you’re talking about.