DixHills

Do you see large drop of mileage in the winter? In the summer, I got around 43 with half highway/half local. In the fall, I had a 500 miles trip, temp in 60s, I got 47 on highway.
Now, it is winter time, temp in 30~45 (I did not set high heating at all, around 70 deg only), I got only 38.5 with half highway/half local.

jimv1983

My experience seems to be similar. My typical driving is ECO Mode on. Cruise control set at 70-72. 90% freeway driving. From the time I got the car in April until about a week before Halloween I was getting just 40.5 MPG on average. In the last four fill ups I have averaged 38.8. A drop of about 5%. And that is with 72-73 degrees on the climate control and the outside temp in the low 50's compared to the high 60's.

I'm already pretty disappointed with the MPG on the 2019 ES 300h based on the 45 MPG rating and now it looks like the winter weather is going to make it even worse.

My previous car was a 2011 Camry Hybrid and it never seemed to be impacted that much by cold weather and seemed to get 33 MPG pretty consistently for the same 90% freeway driving. That car got closer to the EPA freeway estimate than the ES 300h does.

TechNut

This is my 4th hybrid, and they all have experienced similar dips in cold weather. A 3 to 5 degree difference is completely normal. The car has to run the internal combustion engine more, both to keep the engine at a safe operating temperature and to generate hot water to run the heater.

actionzhe

2 full weeks passed since I picked up my 2020 ESh, and yesterday night after work was the first time I filled it up with ~1/8 of a tank left. I did 587 miles (5 miles on ODO when picked up), and still have est 39 mile range remaining. Filled up with 11.2 gallons, and costed me just shy of $20. At this rate my energy cost is only about 3 cents/mile, which is cheaper than charging a Tesla model 3 at home here in Texas!

This car's mileage is simply amazing! I got 51.9 MPG according to the computer, and 52.8 MPG according to the pump. I thought I accidentally bought a Prius! 8 MPG over EPA rating is just WOW! Best part is other than me putting it in Eco mode, I've been basically driving this car like I normally do.

Granted I was not driving to be the fastest guy on the road, but up to a decent 75 mph on the highways here, and I was not holding back when I push it deep into the power zone to pass and merge. I did try to glide as much as I can, and anticipate stopping so I max my regen, but that's about it...

My rush hour commute one way is consisted of 18 miles of highway, with stretches of 0-10mph stop and go, 10-30 slow traffic, and 65-75 MPH free flowing traffic, and 7 miles of city street driving between 0-45 MPH. Temperature for the past 2 weeks here were anywhere from 40s to 70s, mainly around 50-60s.

This is the first hybrid I owned, I had a chance to rent a Ford Fusion hybrid last year, and I was able to get 48 MPG out of that thing when traveling in LA when it was rated at 42. So after that I'm determined that my next car will be a hybrid. With the smoothness of the E-CVT in stop and go traffic, the punch of passing power from electric motor when flooring it, and the amazing fuel economy, while I'm not ready for full EVs yet, i'm never going back to a gasoline only car.

Ken7

We've had the car about a week (2019 ES300h) and we've put on about 400 miles. Thus far we're close to 39mpg, but the weather has been cold (30s). So I'd suspect that's OK.

Bichon

You're pretty good at finding cheap gas too. Looks like you paid $1.779 which is an amazing price, even for Texas!

actionzhe

This is at a Shell station, and I usually have 15-20 cent discount per gallon with them. It's a combination of being their gold rewards member, Tmobile customer, and some other promos here and there. Gas around where I live is at 1.9-2.0 per gallon normally, and I think I was at 20 cent discount last night when I filled up.

sanek7

I'm really disappointed with the MPG on my 2018 ES 300h. I have averaged 32-35 with speed 70 on ECO mode. After a reset car run 34-37 but not for a long time. Tire pressure 33 cold/36 hot.

kalel2127

Might get better results with a psi of 35 cold.

mickbrown

This is the Gen7 (2019, 2020, ...) forum.

sanek7

with psi 35 tires will wear out much faster

sanek7

my car is 2018 ES 300h

TechNut

Perhaps you didn’t understand mickbrown’s point. The 2018 model year is the last year of the Generation 6 ES. The Gen 7 ES starts with the 2019 model year. You will find greater experience with your model year if you post your question in the Gen 6 subforum. I’m sure some here, such as myself, owned Gen 6 cars and may still be able to offer advice, but you will get that broader base of experience posting in the subforum for that model year.

That said, our 2015 ESh was operated with similar tire pressure of 34 psi. We routinely got 34 in the city during the winter, and 36 or 37 during the summer (only once making 40 mpg). Highway mileage varied more. We had early tanks during our ownership as low as 32 mpg on a road trip. The last road trip in May delivered two tanks that hit 43 mpg (one at 80 mph). We pretty much always drove it in eco mode. This was also our third hybrid following two Priuses so we were familiar with the optimal driving manner that will maximize economy from a hybrid. The key for us is the pulse and glide technique. Accelerate normally right up to a few miles over your desired speed, and then back off ever so slightly to try to engage the electric motor (works better for city driving of course). Google it if you want more info on that technique. I hope that gives you more perspective on your challenge.

Canesguy

You’ve gotten amazing mpg’s - you must drive like the little old lady from Pasadena ( just kidding).

Our 2018 Prius is getting an average (summer/winter, city/highway) of 64mpg, actual calculated. Toyota products get better than EPA mpg in my experience.

actionzhe

Haha, I wish I can be going as fast as little old ladies when I'm stuck in traffic every day. But my commute traffic definitely plays a lot into it. Over the weekend when I'm doing constant 75-80 this car is solidly in the 40s on the MPG. My commute MPG is probably higher than the 51.9 indicated, because the tank average included weekend driving and short trips to stores. On those short trips I'm usually seeing high 30s at best while engine is trying to warm up.
When traffic is going in the 30-40s is definitely the sweet spot for fuel economy, EV modes kicks in a lot, and it's fast enough so engine can charge while propelling the car forward instead of just sitting there charging. I noticed sometimes even when the engine is running at ~1k RPM the instantaneous MPG gauge is beyond the 60MPG mark at those speeds. Sadly the gauge only goes up to 60 MPG so I can't see exactly what it's doing.
But my second tank returned 50.5 MPG, and I'm on my third tank right now and I'm at 50.9.

I'm extremely satisfied with the MPG on this car, only if the tank was slightly larger by a few gallons so I can go longer than 2 weeks without refueling....