Merged premium fuel threads - is higher than 87 Octane needed or useful?
10-03-22, 08:26 AM
#79
Lexus Test Driver
87 or higher from the owner's manual.
10-05-22, 11:39 AM
#80
A year and a half ago, I bought a new 2021 ES 350. 8,000 miles on it now. Very pleased. However, as I've mentioned on this forum once or twice, when going up a hill, accelerating moderately between 40-45 mph, I get a minor engine hesitation. Past 45 mph it disappears. Accelerate a bit harder, it disappears. Tried premium gas. No difference. Is this something I should pursue before while under warranty or might it just go away. Any ideas what causes it?
01-03-23, 09:18 PM
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05-27-23, 03:02 PM
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02-13-24, 05:09 PM
#85
I too have ordered the 2024 ES and the reason is that the reliable V6 will disappear in the new version with options only for turbocharged and hybrid powertrains. I like the simple V6 that has the right amount of power and most importantly for some of us in California, it runs on regular fuel. Admittedly an anomaly, I filled up my Land Cruiser in Death Valley last week. It runs on Premium and the difference in cost between premium and regular was 80 cents a gallon. Not insignificant. The difference between regular and premium used to be 20 cents a gallon for years but is now often 30 or 40 or 50 cents a gallon more. Those more powerful turbocharged engines that the manufacturers are building all run on premium. While I don't have any facts one way or the other, I surmise that over time this premium vs regular fuel difference will become more pronounced. May not be a big deal for some, but if I can get a car with reasonable power that does not need premium fuel, that is a better approach than locking myself into a premium fueled vehicle with turbochargers.
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02-13-24, 05:16 PM
#86
I too have ordered the 2024 ES and the reason is that the reliable V6 will disappear in the new version with options only for turbocharged and hybrid powertrains. I like the simple V6 that has the right amount of power and most importantly for some of us in California, it runs on regular fuel. Admittedly an anomaly, I filled up my Land Cruiser in Death Valley last week. It runs on Premium and the difference in cost between premium and regular was 80 cents a gallon. Not insignificant. The difference between regular and premium used to be 20 cents a gallon for years but is now often 30 or 40 or 50 cents a gallon more. Those more powerful turbocharged engines that the manufacturers are building all run on premium. While I don't have any facts one way or the other, I surmise that over time this premium vs regular fuel difference will become more pronounced. May not be a big deal for some, but if I can get a car with reasonable power that does not need premium fuel, that is a better approach than locking myself into a premium fueled vehicle with turbochargers.
02-13-24, 05:24 PM
#87
Pit Crew
I see it too. In Massachusetts, the difference has been a full $1.00 for some time now.
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02-14-24, 08:32 AM
#89
Lexus Test Driver
And anyone notice oil just spiked up last day or two - I had filled up for $2.99 on Monday and that same fuel today is $3.29.
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02-14-24, 09:33 AM
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