Need help deciding on a new ES or other
#46
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None and for a reason. Owned two Hyundai's including a higher end Azera for five years. Drove a G80 as a loaner and a G70 for few days when I was considering buying one. Don't get me wrong - they make a good product but IMO, it's not Lexus build quality. The dealer network is lacking as well. I belong to a Genesis forum and the volume of complaints regarding the dealer experience is overwhelming.
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Cars any car is like any female it's all in what you like how you are going to feel being with her. does she makes you look back whenever you walk away from her? will you keep her happy if so she will keep you happy.
So picking your next Car is one of things where it just comes to you.
So picking your next Car is one of things where it just comes to you.
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Cars any car is like any female it's all in what you like how you are going to feel being with her. does she makes you look back whenever you walk away from her? will you keep her happy if so she will keep you happy.
So picking your next Car is one of things where it just comes to you.
So picking your next Car is one of things where it just comes to you.
#49
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None and for a reason. Owned two Hyundai's including a higher end Azera for five years. Drove a G80 as a loaner and a G70 for few days when I was considering buying one. Don't get me wrong - they make a good product but IMO, it's not Lexus build quality. The dealer network is lacking as well. I belong to a Genesis forum and the volume of complaints regarding the dealer experience is overwhelming.
Anyway, I don't really see why the new G80 is being compared to the ES when it's a far more expensive and higher end vehicle. The ES can only dream of reaching the tech and luxury of the new G80.
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Basing your assumption of Genesis quality by using an Azera is like using an Avalon to assume the quality of a Lexus GS.
Anyway, I don't really see why the new G80 is being compared to the ES when it's a far more expensive and higher end vehicle. The ES can only dream of reaching the tech and luxury of the new G80.
Anyway, I don't really see why the new G80 is being compared to the ES when it's a far more expensive and higher end vehicle. The ES can only dream of reaching the tech and luxury of the new G80.
#52
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Genesis beautiful designs, maybe for a lease, but not for a purchase, IMO.
Genesis dealer network is non-exsistent around me, so you must go to Hyundai dealers for service, which are just terrible, and parts availability if (and when) needed, is very questionable, again, IMO.
Genesis dealer network is non-exsistent around me, so you must go to Hyundai dealers for service, which are just terrible, and parts availability if (and when) needed, is very questionable, again, IMO.
#53
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I would wait for the upcoming TLX if you can. All new design. Otherwise, if you can swing it, I'd just go ES again.
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