View Poll Results: Have you experience any jerkiness in transmission of your ES350?
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16
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Do you experience jerkiness in transmission with your ES350?
03-31-21, 09:27 AM
#61
Read the first few posts in this thread. You can't miss it:
The worst time I experience the jerks are when slowing down in city traffic, like coming to a stop light. When the light turns green and I'm still going 15-20 mph, if I try to speed back up, I get a big jerk as the transmission downshifts. If I stay very light on the accelerator, it doesn't do that, but it also takes a long time to get back up to speed. I don't think this is uncommon in automatics with more than 6 speeds, but it's not very "luxurious" for a luxury car.
The worst time I experience the jerks are when slowing down in city traffic, like coming to a stop light. When the light turns green and I'm still going 15-20 mph, if I try to speed back up, I get a big jerk as the transmission downshifts. If I stay very light on the accelerator, it doesn't do that, but it also takes a long time to get back up to speed. I don't think this is uncommon in automatics with more than 6 speeds, but it's not very "luxurious" for a luxury car.
That's precisely the issue I addressed in post #50 above.
03-31-21, 09:46 AM
#62
Seems some Camry/Avalon owners experience the same issue and a TSB was issued for a reprogram. But appears it's still happening to newer Lexus models too. Maybe this TSB reprogram wasn't applied to Lexus models officially cause not enough people complained?
https://www.toyotanation.com/attachm...17-pdf.224550/
https://www.toyotanation.com/attachm...17-pdf.224550/
03-31-21, 09:49 AM
#63
Instructor
I have an 2008 Tundra and sometimes I feel like it is going to break my neck when that happens. Good example is slowing down for a yield sign and then pressing on gas. This is a real problem with toyota-lexus and has not and will not be fixed. My 2001 LS 430 is exactly opposite where is extremely sluggish in that situation. I have to reset transmission and keep in sport mode every few months by undoing battery cable to make more responsive. I also have a 2020 ES300h with different transmission and perfect. Haven't driven the ES350 but know exactly what you are talking about.
03-31-21, 09:54 AM
#64
^ Agree. I love the e-CVT (not a CVT, nor a "transmission") of the ES hybrid. Completely smooth, seamless, in all conditions. Very responsive too. Feels like a traditional transmission in terms of response. (Unlike past Prius/CT200h) which were really rubberbandy and would barely respond when you floor it.
Toyota did a great job with the new A25AFXS e-CVT.
Toyota did a great job with the new A25AFXS e-CVT.
03-31-21, 11:04 AM
#65
Lexus Test Driver
03-31-21, 05:33 PM
#66
03-31-21, 05:47 PM
#67
Lexus Test Driver
Clearly, both sides have made their points. Your comment about stopping was confusing. The issue is not about stopping or slowing down. It's about accelerating after stopping or slowing down. Or more precisely, how you deploy the gas pedal when accelerating after stopping or slowing down.
04-01-21, 05:17 AM
#69
Lexus Test Driver
I am going to press the dealer next time I'm in there for an oil change. Probably an exercise in futility but nothing to lose. I took a look at the Avalon forum and same complaints there.
04-01-21, 07:34 AM
#70
Reminds me of the old Henny Youngman joke. “The patient says, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." The doctor says, "Then don't do that!”
04-01-21, 07:54 AM
#71
Lexus Test Driver
UUUggghh you can only laugh at these things in the end.
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04-01-21, 05:07 PM
#72
Having to consciously and carefully modulate acceleration to avoid whiplash is not my idea of a nice riding car. Yes, I can do it but it is work. When I get in my wife’s MDX, or any other car I have ever owned, I just drive and enjoy. I used to think I had learned to subconsciously and automatically modulate the accelerator so that driving my ES was no longer a chore. However, as soon as I drive my wife’s car, I realize how much my ES sucks.
Believe me, there's nothing "old lady-like" about my driving style. I'm a very spirited driver. I learned to drive at age 17 delivering my father's shipments from Union City, NJ (the east end of the Lincoln Tunnel) to the garment district in NYC. The avenues of NYC are a great a training ground for real world driving. My current driving style is not much different now.
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04-01-21, 05:25 PM
#73
Lexus Test Driver
OK, I hear ya. Fortunately, for me, my default driving style is in perfect harmony with the car. As I said before, I was surprised by these jerky transmission comments and had to experiment to reproduce the problem. In contrast with all the complaints in this thread, I find the 7ES drive train to be a joy that I look forward to each time I drive the car. To me, the gas pedal is very precise and powerful.
Believe me, there's nothing "old lady-like" about my driving style. I'm a very spirited driver. I learned to drive at age 17 delivering my father's shipments from Union City, NJ (the east end of the Lincoln Tunnel) to the garment district in NYC. The avenues of NYC are a great a training ground for real world driving. My current driving style is not much different now.
Believe me, there's nothing "old lady-like" about my driving style. I'm a very spirited driver. I learned to drive at age 17 delivering my father's shipments from Union City, NJ (the east end of the Lincoln Tunnel) to the garment district in NYC. The avenues of NYC are a great a training ground for real world driving. My current driving style is not much different now.
04-01-21, 05:26 PM
#74
Lead Lap
After reading 71 posts (and counting) in this thread, my main take-away from reading the last 60 or so posts is that I am wondering how many times the same 3 or 4 people can keep saying the same things over and over again.
04-01-21, 05:36 PM
#75