ionian

Just curious how of you out there experience the jerky transmission issue with the non-hybrid ES?

Shaboom

It might be there very subtly, but I’m not sufficiently mechanical to notice it. Neither wife, nor I, have any complaint. From 32,000 ft., as they say, the car is just wonderful.

packman12

The worst time I experience the jerks are when slowing down in city traffic, like coming to a stop light. When the light turns green and I'm still going 15-20 mph, if I try to speed back up, I get a big jerk as the transmission downshifts. If I stay very light on the accelerator, it doesn't do that, but it also takes a long time to get back up to speed. I don't think this is uncommon in automatics with more than 6 speeds, but it's not very "luxurious" for a luxury car.

Shaboom

I certainly don’t doubt for a minute that you experience this. I must, too. I just don’t pay such close attention to it (not that it’s unimportant). I’m probably just too absorbed enjoying all those wonderful songs on Sirius music from 1952 and 1953, when music was music! 😜 Next time I drive in those circumstances, I’ll see if I can detect the same phenomenon—-not that it matters, though, for as the kids say, “It just is what it is...”

mikemu30

This is the worst condition for the trans. Awful.

bc6152

There's no comparison between the 8 speed and the 6 speed in gen 6 cars. The 8 speed is terrible when accelerating from a rolling start. Does exactly what Packman says and jerks you back. My 2013 6 speed was as smooth as butter...

ESh

I have no idea why but the ES is the only Lexus sedan that has problems with the tranny, almost every single generation had some kind of problems. The 4ES a lotta problems, 5ES shift flare, now 7ES hard shifts...

I can’t believe that those drivers that test the prototypes are not able to see/feel those problems.

mikemu30

So very true. I had a six speed in a 2014 Azera which was the best trans Ive ever driven. Never felt a thing and it's a Hyundai 🤔🤔

rebel7254

Test drove a 2017 G90 with 8 speed V8 last week. Also buttery smooth. Don’t understand why Toyota can’t figure it out.

A3A

Exactly the same issue. If you drive gently it generally is ok, but in some cases you need more power especially up a hillier area.

mikemu30

The good side of this is it sort of forces you to avoid rolling through a full stop when all is clear (we all do it gang now cmon) You make the full stop and then there's no jerk upon takeoff.

687Jim

Yes, but only in Normal mode, not Eco.

Shaboom

Haven’t tried those different modes yet (only 3 weeks of ownership). But I‘ll pay attention to the tranny stuff now when I try them out..

DavidZ

It's only a problem if you have a lead foot. Or drive up a lot of hills.

mikemu30

Not even close to accurate.