Hybrid missing Pano Roof Option?
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I've been looking at the ES300h Hybrid option and noticed that every dealership I've searched at, not matter how fully loaded "Ultra Luxury" equipped the ES300h is, they all lack a Panoramic Sunroof and only come with a standard moonroof. Anyone know why the hybrids lack this option? Currently drive a Volvo SUV with a full pano sunroof and the 3 year old happens to love this feature.
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I've been looking at the ES300h Hybrid option and noticed that every dealership I've searched at, not matter how fully loaded "Ultra Luxury" equipped the ES300h is, they all lack a Panoramic Sunroof and only come with a standard moonroof. Anyone know why the hybrids lack this option? Currently drive a Volvo SUV with a full pano sunroof and the 3 year old happens to love this feature.
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Wish I could give you mine. I don't use either sun (moon) roof whether regular or pano. It's been open once when I picked up the car... Hard to find a car w/o a sun roof these days...
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I like the regular sunroof. As mentioned the glass roof will weigh a lot and also removes structural members from the roof so makes the car a bit weaker as well as heavier. It will also add weight up top making the car a bit more top heavy. All around not a good option unless you REALLY want it and will really use it. Also a consideration is if you buy the car, know that should anything go wrong with that assembly after the warranty is up, you are looking at an extremely expensive repair.
I would only get this option if i was leasing and not a hybrid and it already came packaged w/ the car, or discounted.
I would only get this option if i was leasing and not a hybrid and it already came packaged w/ the car, or discounted.
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I believe it was the 6th generation ES subforum where I read this, but the Pano roof adds something like 200 pounds to the weight of the car. So yes, my "guess" would also be weight as to the reason those aren't available in the hybrids. I wonder if that is the case in countries outside of North America where they may not be trying to reach specific CAFE goals?
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I read somewhere pano roofs are less prone to leaks as compared with traditional sunroofs. I actually do prefer the pano but as discussed, it wasn't an option with the FSport I wanted.
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I have pano roofs on both of my current vehicles, and, even though I never use them, the one thing that I do like about the pano roofs is that, with the pano roof and with the entire front ends of both vehicles covered with paint protection film, there are very few exposed horizontal sheet metal surfaces on those vehicles, and that means that there are few areas on the vehicles where bird droppings, tree sap, and other environmental contaminents can sit on painted sheet metal and etch/damage the finish of the car.
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And not only 200 lbs, but 200 lbs up top. The very worst place to have weight. Cruising around it's fine but you might notice response and feel diminished.
I don't know about a pano roof being less prone to leaking. i think you've got that backwards (to the person who said that)
A sunroof is a small hole while a pano roof is a much larger hole with more seal and more intricate seals. someone in this forum is having issues w/ his pano roof leaking.
I don't know about a pano roof being less prone to leaking. i think you've got that backwards (to the person who said that)
A sunroof is a small hole while a pano roof is a much larger hole with more seal and more intricate seals. someone in this forum is having issues w/ his pano roof leaking.
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