2022 Lexus ES Refresh tease photo (redesigned headlights)
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What else could we see with a redesign other than updated front/rear lights?
I know in the Avalon mid-refresh, they also did an updated infotainment system and that was largely it besides new bumper covers and lights.
I’ve also seen Toyota do different bumper covers and adding more USB ports.
Nothing too wild based on their track record.
I’m hoping for an AWD ES300h with an electric motor on the rear axel.
I know in the Avalon mid-refresh, they also did an updated infotainment system and that was largely it besides new bumper covers and lights.
I’ve also seen Toyota do different bumper covers and adding more USB ports.
Nothing too wild based on their track record.
I’m hoping for an AWD ES300h with an electric motor on the rear axel.
As far as what else, probably more interior colors, possibly an additional exterior color, possibly updated interior trim and standard options.
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As I already stated in my first post, it appears the front bumper has been reworked. There appears to be a bulge at the front grill... seems to be in line with Toyota's latest design language where there's a prominence at the front grill surround. Kind of bubbly. Not sure if I'll like it. I am not sure about the rear yet. The speculation is that it's unchanged based on the teaser video but I haven't really seen Lexus update only one side of the car. Or any car company, really. So we'll have to see.
As far as what else, probably more interior colors, possibly an additional exterior color, possibly updated interior trim and standard options.
As far as what else, probably more interior colors, possibly an additional exterior color, possibly updated interior trim and standard options.
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that would be awesome but I’m skeptical because Toyota was basically the last company to adopt CarPlay.
wireless CarPlay has been barely adopted by any manufacturers right now. I wouldn’t expect Toyota who is routinely not leading the tech front to jump ahead.
my bet is we won’t see it until the 8th or even 9th gen
wireless CarPlay has been barely adopted by any manufacturers right now. I wouldn’t expect Toyota who is routinely not leading the tech front to jump ahead.
my bet is we won’t see it until the 8th or even 9th gen
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I'd be on board with wireless car play so long as the music quality doesn't take a hit as is normally the case with wireless music. I tested this the other day wired vs. wireless and there is a small but perceptible difference in quality. That's the only gripe I have with wireless ACP. Though for navigation it would rock. If they can configure it to where you can choose how you want music streamed, that would be cool.
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I'd be on board with wireless car play so long as the music quality doesn't take a hit as is normally the case with wireless music. I tested this the other day wired vs. wireless and there is a small but perceptible difference in quality. That's the only gripe I have with wireless ACP. Though for navigation it would rock. If they can configure it to where you can choose how you want music streamed, that would be cool.
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yeah i am using an iphone 12 pro. there's a loss. you'll notice if you're picky and play the same song, same volume, same app, same device and switch back and forth.
apple is notorious to audiophiles for its sort of crappy streaming music codecs over BT. hopefully they improve on that for the next gen iphone.
for now i stay wired unless listening casually.
apple is notorious to audiophiles for its sort of crappy streaming music codecs over BT. hopefully they improve on that for the next gen iphone.
for now i stay wired unless listening casually.
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yeah i am using an iphone 12 pro. there's a loss. you'll notice if you're picky and play the same song, same volume, same app, same device and switch back and forth.
apple is notorious to audiophiles for its sort of crappy streaming music codecs over BT. hopefully they improve on that for the next gen iphone.
for now i stay wired unless listening casually.
apple is notorious to audiophiles for its sort of crappy streaming music codecs over BT. hopefully they improve on that for the next gen iphone.
for now i stay wired unless listening casually.
I use the BT in the car from my brand new Apple IPad Air 4. It’s really very good, though admittedly, not as deep and strong a signal as when it’s wired. Understandable.
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here are the cars that have wireless AppleCarPlay. Lexus should be in this list.
Which Cars Offer Wireless Apple CarPlay or Android Auto for 2021?
Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
- BMW: 2 Series Gran Coupe, 3 Series, 4 Series, 5 Series, 7 Series, 8 Series, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, Z4
- Buick: Encore GX, Envision
- Cadillac: CT4, CT5, Escalade, Escalade ESV, XT4, XT5, XT6
- Chevrolet: Camaro, Corvette, Malibu, Silverado 1500, Silverado 2500/3500, Suburban, Tahoe, Trailblazer
- Chrysler: Pacifica
- Dodge: Durango
- Ford: Bronco, F-150, Mustang Mach-E
- GMC: Acadia, Sierra 1500, Sierra 2500/3500, Yukon, Yukon XL
- Honda: Accord
- Jeep: Grand Cherokee L (not regular Grand Cherokee)
- Hyundai: Elantra, Palisade
- Kia: K5, Sorento
- Mercedes-Benz: S-Class
- Nissan: Rogue (not Rogue Sport)
- Volkswagen: Atlas (2021.5 only), Atlas Cross Sport, Arteon, Golf GTI (not regular Golf), Jetta, Tiguan
Wireless Apple CarPlay Only
- Audi: A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, E-Tron, Q3, Q5, Q7, Q8
- BMW: 2 Series coupe and convertible, X1, X2
- Mini: Clubman, Convertible, Countryman, Hardtop
- Mazda: Mazda6, MX-5 Miata
- Porsche: 911, Cayenne, Macan, Panamera
- Toyota: Supra
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here are the cars that have wireless AppleCarPlay. Lexus should be in this list.
Which Cars Offer Wireless Apple CarPlay or Android Auto for 2021?
Wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
- BMW: 2 Series Gran Coupe, 3 Series, 4 Series, 5 Series, 7 Series, 8 Series, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, Z4
- Buick: Encore GX, Envision
- Cadillac: CT4, CT5, Escalade, Escalade ESV, XT4, XT5, XT6
- Chevrolet: Camaro, Corvette, Malibu, Silverado 1500, Silverado 2500/3500, Suburban, Tahoe, Trailblazer
- Chrysler: Pacifica
- Dodge: Durango
- Ford: Bronco, F-150, Mustang Mach-E
- GMC: Acadia, Sierra 1500, Sierra 2500/3500, Yukon, Yukon XL
- Honda: Accord
- Jeep: Grand Cherokee L (not regular Grand Cherokee)
- Hyundai: Elantra, Palisade
- Kia: K5, Sorento
- Mercedes-Benz: S-Class
- Nissan: Rogue (not Rogue Sport)
- Volkswagen: Atlas (2021.5 only), Atlas Cross Sport, Arteon, Golf GTI (not regular Golf), Jetta, Tiguan
Wireless Apple CarPlay Only
- Audi: A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, E-Tron, Q3, Q5, Q7, Q8
- BMW: 2 Series coupe and convertible, X1, X2
- Mini: Clubman, Convertible, Countryman, Hardtop
- Mazda: Mazda6, MX-5 Miata
- Porsche: 911, Cayenne, Macan, Panamera
- Toyota: Supra
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Depends on the profit margin on a Genesis vs. hyundais and where each manufacturer decided it needs to spend its budget on. Possibly not enough units sold to justify spending X amount on a feature that won't necessarily = meaningful amount of sales.
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You'd be absolutely shocked at how a 12 cent savings on a part can result in massive profits over hundreds of thousands of units--and not exaggerating with my figure of 12 cents. Now imagine manufacturers doing this on parts that cost over a dollar and over multiple parts.
Depends on the profit margin on a Genesis vs. hyundais and where each manufacturer decided it needs to spend its budget on. Possibly not enough units sold to justify spending X amount on a feature that won't necessarily = meaningful amount of sales.
Depends on the profit margin on a Genesis vs. hyundais and where each manufacturer decided it needs to spend its budget on. Possibly not enough units sold to justify spending X amount on a feature that won't necessarily = meaningful amount of sales.
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It's official. The 2022 ES adds touchscreen. Whoopdedamndo😀
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