Oil Consumption No Better
#1
Oil Consumption No Better
Have now passed 6 mos. and 4300 mi on my new 2021 350 ES. Love the car but oil level is down about 1/3 to 40% of distance between the two dots. As expected, two Lexus service managers said same thing. Not unusual for new Lexus. Check it frequently and don’t be surprised if you have to add oil from time to time. I guess I’ll have to live with this through the next three or four years of my normal car ownsershipcycle.
I’d really like to know what percent of Lexus owners have to add oil between changes.
I also own an Audi and a Volvo. Not a drop between changes—-not a drop. It’s just not an issue with those cars. I guess I’m just disappointed that a car of this supposed quality level and cost requires me to expect to be adding oil regularly between changes.
I’d really like to know what percent of Lexus owners have to add oil between changes.
I also own an Audi and a Volvo. Not a drop between changes—-not a drop. It’s just not an issue with those cars. I guess I’m just disappointed that a car of this supposed quality level and cost requires me to expect to be adding oil regularly between changes.
#2
I bought a 2013 ES 350 in 2012 and a 2019 350 in December of 2018. I have never had to add oil in either car between a yearly oil change. The oil never dropped below the acceptable level. Same engine in both cars a Toyota V6.
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#4
Make sure you're checking your oil at the exact same period of time following shut down, for purposes of comparing. For example don't check it in the morning one time, then right after shutting down the next.
At this point of the car's life I wouldn't worry.
As for me I did a break-in oil change @ 800 miles to prevent the potential for any tiny metal particles circulating around (that the filter couldn't catch) doing any excessive or unnecessary wear to the cylinder walls. Cheap insurance. Did you do a break in oil change or are you on factory oil?
Just curious.
At this point of the car's life I wouldn't worry.
As for me I did a break-in oil change @ 800 miles to prevent the potential for any tiny metal particles circulating around (that the filter couldn't catch) doing any excessive or unnecessary wear to the cylinder walls. Cheap insurance. Did you do a break in oil change or are you on factory oil?
Just curious.
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#6
If it is consuming oil now it will only get worse as it ages. According to Consumer Report it is common for old engines to consume a bit of oil as it ages. By old it is north of 100k miles. I remember your thread about this months ago I thought it was user error if my recollection is right. This is not a good sign.
#7
^Not necessarily true. There's a time and period where some oil consumption is allowed and considered normal, particularly on a new engine. The owners manual confirms this in certain words.
On a super small scale level, the cylinders and ring set have to wear to one another. Same goes for bearings, journals, etc.
If I were him I'd wait until the middle of his next oil change, or better yet at the end of the 2nd interval to assess whether or not he is consuming oil.
My guess is it's a non issue and he's either prematurely or misassessing/misdiagnosing the perceived issue.
On a super small scale level, the cylinders and ring set have to wear to one another. Same goes for bearings, journals, etc.
If I were him I'd wait until the middle of his next oil change, or better yet at the end of the 2nd interval to assess whether or not he is consuming oil.
My guess is it's a non issue and he's either prematurely or misassessing/misdiagnosing the perceived issue.
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#8
Still using factory oil. I change every 5,000 but I’ll do it now in the hope that will, for some reason, make a difference and stop this oil consumption.
Make sure you're checking your oil at the exact same period of time following shut down, for purposes of comparing. For example don't check it in the morning one time, then right after shutting down the next.
At this point of the car's life I wouldn't worry.
As for me I did a break-in oil change @ 800 miles to prevent the potential for any tiny metal particles circulating around (that the filter couldn't catch) doing any excessive or unnecessary wear to the cylinder walls. Cheap insurance. Did you do a break in oil change or are you on factory oil?
Just curious.
At this point of the car's life I wouldn't worry.
As for me I did a break-in oil change @ 800 miles to prevent the potential for any tiny metal particles circulating around (that the filter couldn't catch) doing any excessive or unnecessary wear to the cylinder walls. Cheap insurance. Did you do a break in oil change or are you on factory oil?
Just curious.
#9
You’ve got a good memory. Nothing has changed. No worse but no better.
I hate to get bogged down in multiple trips to dealer for oil checks, etc. But I might have to. Alternative is topping off for a total of a quart or so every 5,000 mile interval. Not terribly bad but it just shouldn’t be no matter what service guys say. QUOTE=ionian;11105567]If it is consuming oil now it will only get worse as it ages. According to Consumer Report it is common for old engines to consume a bit of oil as it ages. By old it is north of 100k miles. I remember your thread about this months ago I thought it was user error if my recollection is right. This is not a good sign.[/QUOTE]
I hate to get bogged down in multiple trips to dealer for oil checks, etc. But I might have to. Alternative is topping off for a total of a quart or so every 5,000 mile interval. Not terribly bad but it just shouldn’t be no matter what service guys say. QUOTE=ionian;11105567]If it is consuming oil now it will only get worse as it ages. According to Consumer Report it is common for old engines to consume a bit of oil as it ages. By old it is north of 100k miles. I remember your thread about this months ago I thought it was user error if my recollection is right. This is not a good sign.[/QUOTE]
#10
You’ve got a good memory. Nothing has changed. No worse but no better.
I hate to get bogged down in multiple trips to dealer for oil checks, etc. But I might have to. Alternative is topping off for a total of a quart or so every 5,000 mile interval. Not terribly bad but it just shouldn’t be no matter what service guys say. QUOTE=ionian;11105567]If it is consuming oil now it will only get worse as it ages. According to Consumer Report it is common for old engines to consume a bit of oil as it ages. By old it is north of 100k miles. I remember your thread about this months ago I thought it was user error if my recollection is right. This is not a good sign.[/QUOTE]
I hate to get bogged down in multiple trips to dealer for oil checks, etc. But I might have to. Alternative is topping off for a total of a quart or so every 5,000 mile interval. Not terribly bad but it just shouldn’t be no matter what service guys say. QUOTE=ionian;11105567]If it is consuming oil now it will only get worse as it ages. According to Consumer Report it is common for old engines to consume a bit of oil as it ages. By old it is north of 100k miles. I remember your thread about this months ago I thought it was user error if my recollection is right. This is not a good sign.[/QUOTE]
#11
It seems common manufacturers put in a clause in their manual saying something about it is okay to use about quart of oil every 1,200 miles to cover their butts. Unless your vehicle is high performance type and you drive the snots out of it oil consumption like what Shaboom experiences is not typical. This is not some new Lexus engine and it has been around for years and known to be bullet proof. I am not aware this engine has oil consumption issue.
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#12
I haven't check my oil yet, but do you guys usually change the oil before 10K or at 10K? I'm at 8400 Miles and haven't got any notification yet. I'm new to Toyota/Lexus, usually I change my oil on my Acura when the MID tell me to do around 7000K miles. Should I keep the oil on my Lexus to go at 10K? I know oil is cheap but is it necessary to do every 5K?
#13
It is prudent to go with your owner's manual. I have read some bizarre stories on the Internet about oil change. It seems some people are stuck in a knowledge time capsule and simply refuses to believe that technology matches on and things change.
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#14
You should change your oil at 5,000 miles. 7,500 in my opinion would be the absolute max. If you drive a hybrid, 5,000 for sure because hybrids are harder on oil in that the engine doesn't run half the time and when it does, it's running cold, not fully warmed up etc.
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