Issue with Ride Quality and Sound
09-01-21, 02:56 AM
#62
Hello,
I just bought my first car, which is a 2021 Lexus ES 350. It's a base model but with all the bells and whistles (Premium Package, upgraded 18" tires, power trunk, parking package, wood trim, etc.). I've broken in about 3,700 miles onto it so far and on many Texas roads, it's quite a lot of road noise. PSI is at 37psi one tire and the other 3 tires are at 36 psi. It's definitely not a quiet ride. Especially on the highway, there's so much noise! My last car was a Honda Accord 2015 and the Lexus isn't that much better. On the baby smooth roads, yes, it's quiet and comfortable but every car is great on these roads. I've checked the panels and everything seems to be in line.
I purchased a $48,000 Lexus because of the quietness and smoothness. Mercedes and BMW 5 series seems to be smoother at the same price point.
Anyone also experience not a smooth or quiet ride quality you'd expect from a Lexus and done something about it? Maybe tires? Panels? Window seals?
Also anyone broken in 60k+ miles on their 7th gen ES? How is the ride after persistent use? Does it still drive like new?
I just bought my first car, which is a 2021 Lexus ES 350. It's a base model but with all the bells and whistles (Premium Package, upgraded 18" tires, power trunk, parking package, wood trim, etc.). I've broken in about 3,700 miles onto it so far and on many Texas roads, it's quite a lot of road noise. PSI is at 37psi one tire and the other 3 tires are at 36 psi. It's definitely not a quiet ride. Especially on the highway, there's so much noise! My last car was a Honda Accord 2015 and the Lexus isn't that much better. On the baby smooth roads, yes, it's quiet and comfortable but every car is great on these roads. I've checked the panels and everything seems to be in line.
I purchased a $48,000 Lexus because of the quietness and smoothness. Mercedes and BMW 5 series seems to be smoother at the same price point.
Anyone also experience not a smooth or quiet ride quality you'd expect from a Lexus and done something about it? Maybe tires? Panels? Window seals?
Also anyone broken in 60k+ miles on their 7th gen ES? How is the ride after persistent use? Does it still drive like new?
i have a full spec ES F sport (Japan made) and yes it suffers from "loud" road noise.
the quiet version of lexus is the luxury version with those noise reduction tyres and double pine glass so yes this is an issue with some versions of the ES
09-01-21, 07:08 AM
#63
Lexus Fanatic
Double paned glass isn't going to help you with road noise. It helps with wind noise and isolation from sounds from other cars etc.
"Road noise" is an issue for all Lexus vehicles to some degree, its one area where they don't excel at sound damping. My S Class for instance is a good bit more isolated from the road specifically than my LS460L was, although the LS was very comparable in wind noise and outside isolation. As you get cheaper down the line the issue becomes bigger. Thats why tires on a Lexus are so important to how they ride.
"Road noise" is an issue for all Lexus vehicles to some degree, its one area where they don't excel at sound damping. My S Class for instance is a good bit more isolated from the road specifically than my LS460L was, although the LS was very comparable in wind noise and outside isolation. As you get cheaper down the line the issue becomes bigger. Thats why tires on a Lexus are so important to how they ride.
09-01-21, 09:40 AM
#64
Driver School Candidate
SW17LS...I agree with your comments and I check the tire pressure frequently, especially before, during and after long trips.
Others will do what they do........just remember, you can't make chicken soup out of chicken feathers
Others will do what they do........just remember, you can't make chicken soup out of chicken feathers
The following users liked this post:
SW17LS (09-01-21)
09-01-21, 10:21 PM
#65
Double paned glass isn't going to help you with road noise. It helps with wind noise and isolation from sounds from other cars etc.
"Road noise" is an issue for all Lexus vehicles to some degree, its one area where they don't excel at sound damping. My S Class for instance is a good bit more isolated from the road specifically than my LS460L was, although the LS was very comparable in wind noise and outside isolation. As you get cheaper down the line the issue becomes bigger. Thats why tires on a Lexus are so important to how they ride.
"Road noise" is an issue for all Lexus vehicles to some degree, its one area where they don't excel at sound damping. My S Class for instance is a good bit more isolated from the road specifically than my LS460L was, although the LS was very comparable in wind noise and outside isolation. As you get cheaper down the line the issue becomes bigger. Thats why tires on a Lexus are so important to how they ride.
double paned glass does reduce over all noise. in any case would changing my current 19 inch to 18 inch noise reducing rims help?.. also my tyres are nosy Dunlops. I have only clocked 6K KM (3.5k miles) on my car
09-02-21, 04:35 AM
#66
Slight road and tire noise on my 2019 350 ES UL with original Michelin Tires. Not horrible just more than I expected coming from a 2010 350ES. What is the current leader of all car brands for quiet and smooth ride?
09-02-21, 05:53 AM
#67
Hard to generalize across a maker without accounting for price. At its price, the 80 and 90 Genesis models are very well reviewed for quietness, although the four-cylinder G80 model has been criticized for unrefined engine noise instead. Then again, all these Genesis models except the base G80 are also considerably more expensive than the ES, which overall has been measured in its Ultra Luxury trim at only 1db louder than the Mercedes S Class.
09-02-21, 05:55 AM
#68
Changing your current 19" rims to 18" inches would help a bit. Changing them to the optional noise-reducing 18" rims that are standard on Ultra Luxury and optional on Luxury would help some more. Changing your tires from the rock-hard gas mileage specials specified by Lexus would help, too. Tire Rack is a good source for picking tires that deliver specific traits like this.
The following users liked this post:
Prado (09-03-21)
09-02-21, 06:01 AM
#69
"Road noise" is an issue for all Lexus vehicles to some degree, its one area where they don't excel at sound damping. My S Class for instance is a good bit more isolated from the road specifically than my LS460L was, although the LS was very comparable in wind noise and outside isolation. As you get cheaper down the line the issue becomes bigger. Thats why tires on a Lexus are so important to how they ride.
Yes, a $45,000 Lexus is going to have less sound suppression than a $100,000 Mercedes-Benz. It's a massaged version of a front-drive Avalon chassis. You do get what you pay for (unless you buy GM, in which case you get less).
The following users liked this post:
landonm86 (09-03-21)
09-02-21, 07:58 AM
#70
Lexus Fanatic
Smaller rims help with road noise, but its not going to be a huge difference. I would get a set of really well regarded quiet tires, like Pirelli P7s.
The following users liked this post:
Prado (09-03-21)
09-02-21, 08:02 AM
#71
Lexus Fanatic
This is a bit over the top, IMO. Lexus was a pioneer in suppressing tire noise; the spongy fiberboard inner fender liners, for example, were an LS400 innovation. If you want to hear a car that doesn't suppress tire noise well, drive a Honda anything.
Yes, a $45,000 Lexus is going to have less sound suppression than a $100,000 Mercedes-Benz. It's a massaged version of a front-drive Avalon chassis. You do get what you pay for (unless you buy GM, in which case you get less).
Yes, a $45,000 Lexus is going to have less sound suppression than a $100,000 Mercedes-Benz. It's a massaged version of a front-drive Avalon chassis. You do get what you pay for (unless you buy GM, in which case you get less).
And I had an LS400, and an LS430....neither had spongy fiberboard fender liners.
And modern Hondas are much better than older Hondas. My assistant has a new Accord hybrid and its just as quiet as an ES, for example. Friend of mine had a 2010 Accord which was really loud.
Last edited by SW17LS; 09-02-21 at 08:07 AM.
The following users liked this post:
PrimeDave (11-07-22)
09-02-21, 06:08 PM
#72
Pole Position
09-03-21, 05:32 AM
#73
The sort of glass the car has does not reduce sound that travels through the vehicle's floor. Think about it for a minute. The issue is lack of sound absorption/deadening in the floor panels, wheel surrounds, vehicle suspension etc.
Smaller rims help with road noise, but its not going to be a huge difference. I would get a set of really well regarded quiet tires, like Pirelli P7s.
Smaller rims help with road noise, but its not going to be a huge difference. I would get a set of really well regarded quiet tires, like Pirelli P7s.
good advice,
the 18 inch sound reducing rims cost around $3K here in Dubai, dont hate road noise that much.... i am going to skip that and just go with Pirelli or something similar
09-03-21, 05:34 AM
#74
09-03-21, 08:00 AM
#75
Lexus Fanatic
I really don't think the "noise reducing wheels" make much difference. i would just get a good set of tires.
The following users liked this post:
radiologym (09-21-21)