What quirks/annoyances do you have with the 7ES?
10-31-21, 08:58 AM
#31
Lexus Test Driver
How about no rear heated seats. This is a complete fumble and cheesey cost cut for a Lexus.
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Rarewolf (11-05-21)
10-31-21, 11:02 AM
#32
•The unfinished trunk-ceiling surface in the area of the trunk light and springs
•Plastic replacing wood on the door panel surfaces around the power window switches
To be fair, though, Gen 7 has more size, more power, more tech, and a new improved chassis, yet the MSRP on the base model isn't up much. The cost has got to come from somewhere. And as on a lot of modern cars, it's come from the surfaces you can see and touch.
11-01-21, 06:13 AM
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11-01-21, 06:45 AM
#34
Lexus Test Driver
11-01-21, 02:12 PM
#35
Lead Lap
Now, it appears that Lexus is trying to keep the MSRP of a fully loaded ES below $55,000 by not even offering some features as options.
Heck, even the RAV4 Limited Hybrid that I bought about a year ago came with heated rear seats.
Last edited by lesz; 11-01-21 at 03:44 PM.
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LexFinally (11-01-21)
11-02-21, 06:21 AM
#36
Driver School Candidate
For a good number of years, Lexus seemed to have had the goal of keeping the MSRP of the base ES below $40,000. They met that goal by making the base ES more and more "basic" and turning features that had previously been included as standard into extra cost options. (Finally, in the last couple of years, the base ES did go over $40,000.)
Now, it appears that Lexus is trying to keep the MSRP of a fully loaded ES below $55,000 by not even offering some features as options.
Heck, even the RAV4 Limited Hybrid that I bought about a year ago came with heated rear seats.
Now, it appears that Lexus is trying to keep the MSRP of a fully loaded ES below $55,000 by not even offering some features as options.
Heck, even the RAV4 Limited Hybrid that I bought about a year ago came with heated rear seats.
On the other hand, all available styles over here come with a slide/tilt sunroof, but the panoramic roof is not available, not even as an option.
BTW I noticed a huge{!} difference in the MSRP between the USA and The Netherlands. In NL the ES 300h starts at 51,455 Euro ($59,711), and for the fully loaded "President Line" you have to pay 70,485 euro ($81,794).
Even the extra taxes we have to pay here on cars doesn't explain this big difference. Perhaps it's related to the country where the cars are produced. Our ES 300h models are all made in Japan.
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Rileybear (12-18-21)
11-02-21, 07:09 AM
#37
Driver School Candidate
Originally Posted by EV02is View Post
I notice the wipers will never initially automatically wipe standing water when I first get in the car. I have to manually start it before it becomes functional.
I notice the wipers will never initially automatically wipe standing water when I first get in the car. I have to manually start it before it becomes functional.
11-02-21, 08:49 PM
#38
Driver School Candidate
My gas mileage.
But I think it’s partly my fault. Mostly city driving with occasional hard acceleration and I idle for about 20-25 min at a time waiting to pick up my kids from school.
My average right now says 11.5 MPG. Oh my. But I’m at 3 weeks between fill ups.
Anyone else having the same issues? Any suggestions? I have heard our cars are horrible with idling.
I have a 2020 ES 350 F sport.
My average right now says 11.5 MPG. Oh my. But I’m at 3 weeks between fill ups.
Anyone else having the same issues? Any suggestions? I have heard our cars are horrible with idling.
I have a 2020 ES 350 F sport.
11-03-21, 04:54 PM
#39
11-03-21, 04:59 PM
#40
Driver School Candidate
11-04-21, 07:59 AM
#41
Lexus Test Driver
Why leave it idling for extended periods of time??
11-04-21, 02:34 PM
#42
FYI: In the Netherlands the ES 300h has 5 different "styles": Preference Line, Luxury Line, F-Sport Line, Executive Line and President Line. The 2 top-level styles come with a Tri-zone Climate Control and heated rear seats. No idea why this feature isn't available in the USA.
On the other hand, all available styles over here come with a slide/tilt sunroof, but the panoramic roof is not available, not even as an option.
BTW I noticed a huge{!} difference in the MSRP between the USA and The Netherlands. In NL the ES 300h starts at 51,455 Euro ($59,711), and for the fully loaded "President Line" you have to pay 70,485 euro ($81,794). Even the extra taxes we have to pay here on cars doesn't explain this big difference. Perhaps it's related to the country where the cars are produced. Our ES 300h models are all made in Japan.
On the other hand, all available styles over here come with a slide/tilt sunroof, but the panoramic roof is not available, not even as an option.
BTW I noticed a huge{!} difference in the MSRP between the USA and The Netherlands. In NL the ES 300h starts at 51,455 Euro ($59,711), and for the fully loaded "President Line" you have to pay 70,485 euro ($81,794).
Even the extra taxes we have to pay here on cars doesn't explain this big difference. Perhaps it's related to the country where the cars are produced. Our ES 300h models are all made in Japan.
11-04-21, 03:35 PM
#43
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11-05-21, 01:23 AM
#44
Driver School Candidate
- Performance dampers
- "Blade Scan" LED headlights
- Mark Levinson audio
- Tri-zone climate control (separate control for the back seat passengers)
- Manual sun screens at the back door windows
- Power sun screen at the rear window
- Heated back seats
- Power adjustable backrest for the back seats
- Control panel in the back seat armrest for audio, climate, sun screen and backrest (shown in your picture)
- Control buttons in the backrest of the passenger seat for moving passenger seat and its backrest, for use by the rear passengers or driver
It seems to me that the specific "executive rear passenger" features are not available in the USA.
11-05-21, 07:49 AM
#45
Lexus Test Driver
The fully loaded version of the 2022 ES 300h in Europe (in NL it's called "President Line") comes with the following features:
- Performance dampers
- "Blade Scan" LED headlights
- Mark Levinson audio
- Tri-zone climate control (separate control for the back seat passengers)
- Manual sun screens at the back door windows
- Power sun screen at the rear window
- Heated back seats
- Power adjustable backrest for the back seats
- Control panel in the back seat armrest for audio, climate, sun screen and backrest (shown in your picture)
- Control buttons in the backrest of the passenger seat for moving passenger seat and its backrest, for use by the rear passengers or driver
It seems to me that the specific "executive rear passenger" features are not available in the USA.
- Performance dampers
- "Blade Scan" LED headlights
- Mark Levinson audio
- Tri-zone climate control (separate control for the back seat passengers)
- Manual sun screens at the back door windows
- Power sun screen at the rear window
- Heated back seats
- Power adjustable backrest for the back seats
- Control panel in the back seat armrest for audio, climate, sun screen and backrest (shown in your picture)
- Control buttons in the backrest of the passenger seat for moving passenger seat and its backrest, for use by the rear passengers or driver
It seems to me that the specific "executive rear passenger" features are not available in the USA.