What quirks/annoyances do you have with the 7ES?
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Rileybear (12-18-21)
#62
Would be nice to see a different engine or at least a turbo cha4ged version of the current engine in any F Sport version. Otherwise it’s just a waste of money to me.
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decypher44 (11-11-21)
#63
Apples and oranges really. The M and AMG are exponentially more expensive and performance oriented compared to their base models. The FSport (ASpec for Acura) are merely an attempt to add some sporty appearance features at a relatively nominal cost.
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kalel2127 (11-10-21)
#64
the problem is ES is no answer to Euro saloons, the GS was , it was designed from the out set to rival BMW etc
F sport should never been devised for ES saloon
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#66
my **** list...
> road noise - they need to improve sound deadening some how
> ride - need to improve ride quality it should not be so firm,- ignore all those idiot motor jounalist who compare this to a Euro car. Lexus fans dont care about Euro car stiff ride and loud road noise... we care only about comfort, smoothness and quietness
> F sport seats are not comfortable
> dis continue the f sport brand it ruins what ES lexus is supposed to be
> install wireless car play
> road noise - they need to improve sound deadening some how
> ride - need to improve ride quality it should not be so firm,- ignore all those idiot motor jounalist who compare this to a Euro car. Lexus fans dont care about Euro car stiff ride and loud road noise... we care only about comfort, smoothness and quietness
> F sport seats are not comfortable
> dis continue the f sport brand it ruins what ES lexus is supposed to be
> install wireless car play
Probably have to wait till next gen ES LOL if they even plan to do gasoline cars anymore... I'll be damned if they somehow fix some of these on the what I called, a second mid-life-cycle refresh, I think all car companies are watching the market to move to EV, so the life span of all current model generation will be extended few more years...
In regard to the "F Sport" line up, Lexus is working on refining to Introduce 4-Tier F Performance Lineup. So basically there will be more "F Sport" stuff to be added rather than just ... the look as of now on most model.
...Lexus gave us our first high-performance F model in 2008 with the arrival of the IS F. Since then it’s offered F versions of the GS and RC and most recently it introduced the 2022 IS F Sport Performance.
Now Lexus has announced that it is expanding the F lineup from F Sport to four tiers: F Sport Design, F Sport Handling, F Sport Performance and F...
https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/...ormance-lineup
https://www.thetorquereport.com/lexu...to-four-tiers/
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Prado (11-12-21)
#67
my **** list...
> road noise - they need to improve sound deadening some how
> ride - need to improve ride quality it should not be so firm,- ignore all those idiot motor jounalist who compare this to a Euro car. Lexus fans dont care about Euro car stiff ride and loud road noise... we care only about comfort, smoothness and quietness
> F sport seats are not comfortable
> dis continue the f sport brand it ruins what ES lexus is supposed to be
> install wireless car play
> road noise - they need to improve sound deadening some how
> ride - need to improve ride quality it should not be so firm,- ignore all those idiot motor jounalist who compare this to a Euro car. Lexus fans dont care about Euro car stiff ride and loud road noise... we care only about comfort, smoothness and quietness
> F sport seats are not comfortable
> dis continue the f sport brand it ruins what ES lexus is supposed to be
> install wireless car play
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stevewise (12-03-21)
#68
#69
I was coming on to make a closely related point: All his complaints about road noise, ride, and seat comfort are specific to the F Sport. If he bought the F Sport, I feel sorry for him because he didn't choose the version he'd really prefer. But fortunately for him, it's financially easy to get out of a late-model car right not without taking a depreciation bath.
#70
Should have gotten the optional HUD. Intuitive parking assist graphics gets displayed on the HUD (as well as the MID and main screen) when the parking sensors detect one or more close objects.
That said, the display graphics for that subsystem only give a relatively rough location and distance of some detectable object(s) so it has become more or less an automatic response to change my visual focus over to the optionally equipped 12.3 screen's panoramic view monitor display. With that display's vehicle guide lines and 360 degree visual picture of the vehicle surroundings, it is a lot easier to fine tune vehicle movement for precision parking. (Although it may not be to some people's liking and there are a few drawbacks with the setting, I have the panoramic view monitor set to auto display when the vehicle speed is below approximately 6 mph.)
That said, the display graphics for that subsystem only give a relatively rough location and distance of some detectable object(s) so it has become more or less an automatic response to change my visual focus over to the optionally equipped 12.3 screen's panoramic view monitor display. With that display's vehicle guide lines and 360 degree visual picture of the vehicle surroundings, it is a lot easier to fine tune vehicle movement for precision parking. (Although it may not be to some people's liking and there are a few drawbacks with the setting, I have the panoramic view monitor set to auto display when the vehicle speed is below approximately 6 mph.)
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mikemu30 (11-12-21)
#72
It's funny how this tech is polarizing to some, and to others a must have. My wife has it on her Mazda and at first thought it was distracting. I will never buy another vehicle without it, if available. When you use the nav, you never have to look down at the display for where your next turn is, plus it displays your speed and the speed limit of the road you're currently on. My wife got used to it pretty quick and now never turns it off.
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TechNut (11-13-21)
#73
discontinue F-Sport in ES line up.. Yes 100%. it doesnt suit the character of the car. it is ok in IS & GS but not ES.
"Uncomfortable" seats, ok i was being harsh here, but the Luxury has thigh extention and leather which is softer. i noticed it when i sat in it side by side.
red color.. lol.. wasnt my first choice (non availability) but it has grows on you and the compliment i got on color alone were alot.
#74
I was coming on to make a closely related point: All his complaints about road noise, ride, and seat comfort are specific to the F Sport. If he bought the F Sport, I feel sorry for him because he didn't choose the version he'd really prefer. But fortunately for him, it's financially easy to get out of a late-model car right not without taking a depreciation bath.
road noise and ride : yes.. an issue, however did research including in this forum and talking to even uber drivers - solution switch to 18 inch noise reducing alloys and use michellin tyres instead of the dealer installed Dunlops.
Seat comfort : relative compliant , only when i sat in the luxury model i notice the difference.
Wrong version: Yes, bought the F-sport mainly because of looks, 100% of non F-sport ES in Dubai are driven by uber drivers....and also an underestimation how much these issues would be bother to me even though i was generally "aware" of the issues before the purchase.
interestingly some issues like gear jerkness which some posters have pointed out is something i havent experinced, perhaps my is a Japanese made?.. other issues like wireless car play , mouse pad etc to me are non issues.
Financial hit: not really, this is a company car ie given car allowance of upto $50k every 5 years , so i will have to wait 4 more years before a new one can be purchased.
Feel sorry? : lol ... you are taking this too seriously .. the Es f sport is still a very good car.. it not like you bought some thing like Fiat or something..lol. besides the whole point is to help others make a better decision in relation to ES models.
Last edited by Prado; 11-12-21 at 06:40 PM.
#75
700k people dead from COVID, yet this is how some people still choose to spend their time. If the biggest problem you have in life is that the wipers on your Lexus don't work to your satisfaction, you should get down on your knees and thank whoever it is you thank that they've been so kind to you. I personally hate the stereo in my ES, it's horrible. I don't spend more than 5 seconds worrying about it.
This kind of nonsense isn't just ridiculous, it's offensive.
This kind of nonsense isn't just ridiculous, it's offensive.
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