Anyone Purchase A 2022 ES?
05-19-22, 08:13 AM
#76
Glam, regarding your plan to sell after 3-1/2 years as mentioned in post #64, what you do is solely up to you; that's the beauty of democracy. But from an automotive perspective, I can make a helluva case against buying an ES 350 and then selling it in 3 years.
If you look at the most solid reliability/durability survey data available to consumers, the Consumer Reports owner surveys, Audis hold up beautifully for the first 4-5 years and then start to fall apart. Meanwhile, they're prettier, more modern and more tech-forward than any Lexus. The Germans also lease at more favorable rates than Lexus products do. If you buy and then sell a Lexus, you get the worst of all worlds: a car that's less advanced and poorer-performing now, without Lexus's main advantage of reliable long-term ownership that advances your personal finances by letting you out of payment jail and still having years of dependable service in it. (Ask me how I liked that in the Acura I just sold after Year 12.)
I remember you had Chrysler products that proved wretchedly unrelable for long-term ownership, but that's exactly why I didn't consider an initially appealing Chrysler 300 this time. After Year Three, a Lexus ES is a whole different animal. Again, entirely your call, but I have no intention of giving away those tenderloin years when the payments are over but this brilliantly solid, proven machine is just getting broken in.
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05-19-22, 03:27 PM
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You're not the only one. I not only have never leased a vehicle, I kept my last two for 17 years and 12 years respectively.
Glam, regarding your plan to sell after 3-1/2 years as mentioned in post #64, what you do is solely up to you; that's the beauty of democracy. But from an automotive perspective, I can make a helluva case against buying an ES 350 and then selling it in 3 years.
If you look at the most solid reliability/durability survey data available to consumers, the Consumer Reports owner surveys, Audis hold up beautifully for the first 4-5 years and then start to fall apart. Meanwhile, they're prettier, more modern and more tech-forward than any Lexus. The Germans also lease at more favorable rates than Lexus products do. If you buy and then sell a Lexus, you get the worst of all worlds: a car that's less advanced and poorer-performing now, without Lexus's main advantage of reliable long-term ownership that advances your personal finances by letting you out of payment jail and still having years of dependable service in it. (Ask me how I liked that in the Acura I just sold after Year 12.)
I remember you had Chrysler products that proved wretchedly unrelable for long-term ownership, but that's exactly why I didn't consider an initially appealing Chrysler 300 this time. After Year Three, a Lexus ES is a whole different animal. Again, entirely your call, but I have no intention of giving away those tenderloin years when the payments are over but this brilliantly solid, proven machine is just getting broken in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0R-pCSOjpg
Glam, regarding your plan to sell after 3-1/2 years as mentioned in post #64, what you do is solely up to you; that's the beauty of democracy. But from an automotive perspective, I can make a helluva case against buying an ES 350 and then selling it in 3 years.
If you look at the most solid reliability/durability survey data available to consumers, the Consumer Reports owner surveys, Audis hold up beautifully for the first 4-5 years and then start to fall apart. Meanwhile, they're prettier, more modern and more tech-forward than any Lexus. The Germans also lease at more favorable rates than Lexus products do. If you buy and then sell a Lexus, you get the worst of all worlds: a car that's less advanced and poorer-performing now, without Lexus's main advantage of reliable long-term ownership that advances your personal finances by letting you out of payment jail and still having years of dependable service in it. (Ask me how I liked that in the Acura I just sold after Year 12.)
I remember you had Chrysler products that proved wretchedly unrelable for long-term ownership, but that's exactly why I didn't consider an initially appealing Chrysler 300 this time. After Year Three, a Lexus ES is a whole different animal. Again, entirely your call, but I have no intention of giving away those tenderloin years when the payments are over but this brilliantly solid, proven machine is just getting broken in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0R-pCSOjpg
For those that intend to keep their vehicles for years to come , I say more power to you. It's just a different mindset. Either way, we know what we want and no one will deter us from having just that.
Last edited by UltraLux22; 05-19-22 at 03:32 PM.
05-19-22, 05:38 PM
#78
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You're not the only one. I not only have never leased a vehicle, I kept my last two for 17 years and 12 years respectively.
Glam, regarding your plan to sell after 3-1/2 years as mentioned in post #64, what you do is solely up to you; that's the beauty of democracy. But from an automotive perspective, I can make a helluva case against buying an ES 350 and then selling it in 3 years.
If you look at the most solid reliability/durability survey data available to consumers, the Consumer Reports owner surveys, Audis hold up beautifully for the first 4-5 years and then start to fall apart. Meanwhile, they're prettier, more modern and more tech-forward than any Lexus. The Germans also lease at more favorable rates than Lexus products do. If you buy and then sell a Lexus, you get the worst of all worlds: a car that's less advanced and poorer-performing now, without Lexus's main advantage of reliable long-term ownership that advances your personal finances by letting you out of payment jail and still having years of dependable service in it. (Ask me how I liked that in the Acura I just sold after Year 12.)
I remember you had Chrysler products that proved wretchedly unrelable for long-term ownership, but that's exactly why I didn't consider an initially appealing Chrysler 300 this time. After Year Three, a Lexus ES is a whole different animal. Again, entirely your call, but I have no intention of giving away those tenderloin years when the payments are over but this brilliantly solid, proven machine is just getting broken in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0R-pCSOjpg
Glam, regarding your plan to sell after 3-1/2 years as mentioned in post #64, what you do is solely up to you; that's the beauty of democracy. But from an automotive perspective, I can make a helluva case against buying an ES 350 and then selling it in 3 years.
If you look at the most solid reliability/durability survey data available to consumers, the Consumer Reports owner surveys, Audis hold up beautifully for the first 4-5 years and then start to fall apart. Meanwhile, they're prettier, more modern and more tech-forward than any Lexus. The Germans also lease at more favorable rates than Lexus products do. If you buy and then sell a Lexus, you get the worst of all worlds: a car that's less advanced and poorer-performing now, without Lexus's main advantage of reliable long-term ownership that advances your personal finances by letting you out of payment jail and still having years of dependable service in it. (Ask me how I liked that in the Acura I just sold after Year 12.)
I remember you had Chrysler products that proved wretchedly unrelable for long-term ownership, but that's exactly why I didn't consider an initially appealing Chrysler 300 this time. After Year Three, a Lexus ES is a whole different animal. Again, entirely your call, but I have no intention of giving away those tenderloin years when the payments are over but this brilliantly solid, proven machine is just getting broken in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0R-pCSOjpg
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