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Old 11-11-21, 06:41 AM
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So happy to be part of this group. Just bought 2022 ES 350. This is my first posting so bear with me if I don't explain things well.

My headlights have a strange L shape when reflected on a solid surface on each side. Dealership have no idea about this. Service dept are stumped !
When I turn on the brights, the L shape cannot be seen.

Any advice from our experts.
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Old 11-11-21, 08:18 AM
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Headlight modder here. Very familiar with internal headlight design throughout the generations. If you're talking about the angle of the beam curving up, that's called "up-tick" in the industry. That's to illuminate road signs at distance to comply with US DOT.

Not sure what you're talking about. All looks normal. These units are industry standard and are common parts among other makes and models in the industry. Nothing out of the ordinary in your photos. Please be more specific or post better photos.
Old 11-11-21, 08:32 AM
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I don't understand nothing about light and science physics or none of that, but what I notice lately is that the older cars that I had (before 2010) tend to have even level headlights on both sides when you projecting them on a close wall. But those newer cars such as the ES 7th gen, with complex design and LED and auto level beam etc., I notice that the driver side light range is often shorter and lower than the passenger side... but overall you still see everything very good, much better than order cars, mainly because of the LEDs, they are much brighter... So no idea but if I project my headlights to a wall now, I will probably see price of Bitcoin from 2010 till now, where it start very low on the left and going up much higher to the right LOL


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Originally Posted by july1988
I don't understand nothing about light and science physics or none of that, but what I notice lately is that the older cars that I had (before 2010) tend to have even level headlights on both sides when you projecting them on a close wall. But those newer cars such as the ES 7th gen, with complex design and LED and auto level beam etc., I notice that the driver side light range is often shorter and lower than the passenger side... but overall you still see everything very good, much better than order cars, mainly because of the LEDs, they are much brighter... So no idea but if I project my headlights to a wall now, I will probably see price of Bitcoin from 2010 till now, where it start very low on the left and going up much higher to the right LOL

I believe that is by design to minimize blinding oncoming traffic (left lower) and also give better illumination for road signs which are on the right (right higher).
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Old 11-11-21, 08:59 AM
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I'm not sure that know what you are referring to as an "L shape". Can you explain or point to it on the picture?

If you are referring to the fact that the right headlight is higher, that is the way it should be, as mikemu30 explained.
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These two shadows
Old 11-11-21, 02:49 PM
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Is that a problem? I wouldn't call it an L-shape, to me it looks like a small horizontal rectangle. It wouldn't bother me to be honest. Hmm I should go look at my '21 Toyo and '18 LS....
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I don't have a Generation 7 ES or car with the triple beam headlights, but I do have a vehicle with adaptive LED headlights.

I just went out to the garage, and I noticed that, when the car is parked in the garage and I project the headlights onto the wall of the garage, there are two similar "shadows", one on each side. However, when I'm actually driving on the road, I don't see any area at all that is not illuminated.

I also examined how the headlights are arranged, and it appears that there might be, for each headlight, I small area where the projected light is blocked by the structure of the light assembly, but, again, when I'm actually driving, there is no portion of the road that is not illuminated.

I'm guessing that what you are seeing is, in fact, normal, and not an indication of a problem.
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Oh thanks. I was hoping someone else sees what I see and can tell me that it’s normal.
Just bothered me and wanted to know what people thought it was.
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Originally Posted by RobertJay

These look perfectly fine to me.
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It is a fair question. I’m going to have to look more closely at my light patterns. My car has the base headlights so I don’t doubt there are differences in the way the light projects however.
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Those are just shadows of the projector structure itself. Not really something for civilian/layman to be concerned about.

In the old days, we used to refer to similar shadows in the light modding community as return wire shadow. this is probably something similar, just something how the engineers designed it.

not really for your concern. it's like asking why there's little rubber strings on your tires etc. just how they're manufactured.no need to worry.

just enjoy the car =)
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I checked and my’21 RAV4 Prime with adaptive auto-leveling headlights have those dark rectangles.
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Thank you for checking


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