interior noise level
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I have a 2020 ES300h with the acoustic rims with the EL440 Bridgestone Turanza tires. Mine is quiet over a good smooth highway and road noise is pretty unnoticeable. Tire noise also very low on local roads. However, over broken or rough highway it seems to be louder than my old 2018 Audi A4 with Pirelli Cinturato. I think it has to be do with the suspension on the Audi was able to absorb and adjust to smaller bumps better (multi link front and back). As far as vault like, I don't get that feeling like publications have mentioned.
My 2006 LS 430 was absolutely a vault. I can not say the same thing for the ES line. I also think A4 being quiter than ES is crazy too. We should be comparing it with A6 at least. How much wind noise do you hear around 70Mph? Does it bother you?
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Do you have 17" or 18" rims? I have 18 " acoustic rims too but I do not think it helps that much. I am definitly downdgrading to 215/55/17 tire/wheel combo. . I may even go further and put on 225/60/16 inches.I did the calculations and odometer versus actual speed is the same. That combo would give me exactly 1 more inch of side wall thickness over 18" rims. I am sure that would feel like the super plush gliding feeling from the early lexus. I just have to find out if 16"s clear the brake calipers or not. I am trying to come up with the most comfortable driving vehicle for long term usage..I know that Michelin makes 225/60/16 defender tires which is the standart factory recommended brand.
My 2006 LS 430 was absolutely a vault. I can not say the same thing for the ES line. I also think A4 being quiter than ES is crazy too. We should be comparing it with A6 at least. How much wind noise do you hear around 70Mph? Does it bother you?
My 2006 LS 430 was absolutely a vault. I can not say the same thing for the ES line. I also think A4 being quiter than ES is crazy too. We should be comparing it with A6 at least. How much wind noise do you hear around 70Mph? Does it bother you?
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The acoustic rims I believe are 18" and came with mine Luxury package, mine even has the acoustic front windshield and side glass. Changing entire tire and rim combos is a lot of work and may not even equate to a significantly quieter ride, there are too many factors involved. Suspension, road, sound deadening, body structure, etc. The factory recommended tires for me are ones made for economy so I would not go with the same tires again after these current OEM ones. I read somewhere that the ES was too quiet and they had to add some sound in, which is nonsense. At 70mph, on crappy highways, there's plenty of road/tire noise, little wind noise. On smooth or well maintained highway, it is equal to the A4 from what I can tell and very calm, but keep in mind the A4 is exceptionally quiet for what it is. The A6 I test drove felt slightly quieter than that, most likely due to it's larger and longer wheelbase.
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I have some knowledge on this as I've studied it closely before. Basically unless you're an engineer with qualified & calibrated instruments and have super tight set of controls, it's moot and pointless to compare two different cars using a phone app.
Way too many variables to account for as well. The big one being tires. You bought a 3-4 year old car which means that rubber has ben drying out and wearing out. Throw a brand new set of tires on then come back.
Also the ES will be fairly quiet but I think too many people expect too much out of this car in terms of quietness due to Lexus's reputation. Today, all manufacturers have pretty much figured out how to make a quiet car using super computers. So all cars are pretty much as quiet as eachother. Back in the day certain companies stood out and racked up reputations. So today it's rare for a standout. There's really only two production cars today that stand out in terms of quietness. Hint: none of them come from Japan.
Way too many variables to account for as well. The big one being tires. You bought a 3-4 year old car which means that rubber has ben drying out and wearing out. Throw a brand new set of tires on then come back.
Also the ES will be fairly quiet but I think too many people expect too much out of this car in terms of quietness due to Lexus's reputation. Today, all manufacturers have pretty much figured out how to make a quiet car using super computers. So all cars are pretty much as quiet as eachother. Back in the day certain companies stood out and racked up reputations. So today it's rare for a standout. There's really only two production cars today that stand out in terms of quietness. Hint: none of them come from Japan.
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I have some knowledge on this as I've studied it closely before. Basically unless you're an engineer with qualified & calibrated instruments and have super tight set of controls, it's moot and pointless to compare two different cars using a phone app.
Way too many variables to account for as well. The big one being tires. You bought a 3-4 year old car which means that rubber has ben drying out and wearing out. Throw a brand new set of tires on then come back.
Also the ES will be fairly quiet but I think too many people expect too much out of this car in terms of quietness due to Lexus's reputation. Today, all manufacturers have pretty much figured out how to make a quiet car using super computers. So all cars are pretty much as quiet as eachother. Back in the day certain companies stood out and racked up reputations. So today it's rare for a standout. There's really only two production cars today that stand out in terms of quietness. Hint: none of them come from Japan.
Way too many variables to account for as well. The big one being tires. You bought a 3-4 year old car which means that rubber has ben drying out and wearing out. Throw a brand new set of tires on then come back.
Also the ES will be fairly quiet but I think too many people expect too much out of this car in terms of quietness due to Lexus's reputation. Today, all manufacturers have pretty much figured out how to make a quiet car using super computers. So all cars are pretty much as quiet as eachother. Back in the day certain companies stood out and racked up reputations. So today it's rare for a standout. There's really only two production cars today that stand out in terms of quietness. Hint: none of them come from Japan.
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Yea I figured out early that it's too much work to try and quiet down the car. I just turn up the volume with a good playlist and just go
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Nope, but both are SUVs! LOL
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I used app called "Sound Meter" driving @ about 70MPH I got average reading of 61dB.
2021 300h under 2K miles. Not a Luxury or UL.
2021 300h under 2K miles. Not a Luxury or UL.
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What??? I have the same app and I am reading 70-71. 60-65 db is an office space type environment according to a web search. I would love to try your car on a highway. I assume you have 215/55/17 tires right? what brand are they? 61 db is insanely quite...
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BTW, I have a loaner now which is a ES 250, Not a hybrid though. I will measure her up tomorrow. I wonder is hybrids have even more insulation that 350s? A famous youtuber savagegeese test drove both 350 and the hybrid and he confirms that hybrid is quieter. I was not expecting 10 db difference. i think that is double the amount of noise.
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235/45/18 inflated at 34psi
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