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Old 05-05-22, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
They probably have plenty of inventory. My daughter just purchased a new car (not Lexus) - dealer presented proposal PLUS $4,000 market adjustment. She offered MSRP and they accepted. The dealers will keep this up as long as the consumers accept it as real.
Funny thing was they didn't have a single new car on the lot. All used and half of the new ones coming in are reserved. They're owned by a group that also owns a few more dealerships in a few states.
Old 05-05-22, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
They probably have plenty of inventory. My daughter just purchased a new car (not Lexus) - dealer presented proposal PLUS $4,000 market adjustment. She offered MSRP and they accepted. The dealers will keep this up as long as the consumers accept it as real.
Very few, if any dealers have "plenty" of inventory. Especially when it comes to an ES. If you look at Sewell Lexus in TX. THey have 18 UL's listed but every single one is pre sold.
Sterling McCall has 7 UL's, all pre sold. San Antonio Lexus, has 10 UL's in transit and 8 of 2 are pre sold.

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Originally Posted by 2022ES300h
The dealer was a non-haggle dealer and the ES was one of those that they mark it down. I inquired to them about a different vehicle and it was sold, they were able to dealer trade this one for me and still charged under MSRP. It took about 2 months.
This is interesting! Dealer trades, per a recent TX dealer I was in touch with today stated they stopped dealer trading some time ago. Along with the fact even associates can't get below MSRP. A dealer trade AND $1500 below MSRP on a UL is very difficult to believe but only based on info i've obtained in that area. For it to be claimed that a dealer regularly marks down any ES especially now, can not be considered a widely accurate statement. I do not make a habit of questioning those that specify deals they have received. I myself have been on the receiving end of tremendous deals, even just this past January. But I had receipts to back it up. Not saying you aren't telling the truth but this would be HIGHLY irregular.
Then again, my situation too was highly irregular. But I provided considerable detail and documents outlining my deal along with background information. You mentioned your deal on your first post.

If I am wrong then I will happily congratulate you and eat my words!

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Old 05-05-22, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by E46CT
A local dealer has 19 2022 ES300hs listed as "arriving soon", but all spoken for "pending sale."

7 ES350s available on the lot, 2 pending sale.

Glad I didn't sell mine otherwise I'd be riding a bike!
That is more of the story for most places for sure.
Sewell Lexus in TX. 18 UL's listed but every single one is pre sold.
Sterling McCall has 7 UL's, all pre sold.
San Antonio Lexus, has 10 UL's in transit and 8 of 2 are pre sold.

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Originally Posted by UltraLux22
This is interesting! Dealer trades, per a recent TX dealer I was in touch with today stated they stopped dealer trading some time ago. Along with the fact even associates can't get below MSRP. A dealer trade AND $1500 below MSRP on a UL is very difficult to believe but only based on info i've obtained in that area. For it to be claimed that a dealer regularly marks down any ES especially now, can not be considered a widely accurate statement. I do not make a habit of questioning those that specify deals they have received. I myself have been on the receiving end of tremendous deals, even just this past January. But I had receipts to back it up. Not saying you aren't telling the truth but this would be HIGHLY irregular.
Then again, my situation too was highly irregular. But I provided considerable detail and documents outlining my deal along with background information. You mentioned your deal on your first post.

If I am wrong then I will happily congratulate you and eat my words!
Your information is spot on to what I gathered 2 months ago. Sewell Fort Worth wouldn’t even sell to out of state. This one was definitely a weird purchase, found out later after I reserved it that my car was traded from my local dealer (they were selling it for MSRP), so I had to drive a few hours and wait a couple extra days to get it. Here’s a picture of my purchase agreement and stickerhttps://imgur.com/a/OLaAPvU
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Originally Posted by UltraLux22
Very few, if any dealers have "plenty" of inventory. Especially when it comes to an ES. If you look at Sewell Lexus in TX. THey have 18 UL's listed but every single one is pre sold.
Sterling McCall has 7 UL's, all pre sold. San Antonio Lexus, has 10 UL's in transit and 8 of 2 are pre sold.
I'm glad I bought mine roughly 3.5 years ago at roughly 10% off MSRP
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Old 05-05-22, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
I'm glad I bought mine roughly 3.5 years ago at roughly 10% off MSRP
I hear ya! I'm glad I got my UL at 9% off MSRP plus a $1500 rebate on top of that roughly 3.5 months ago!
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Originally Posted by 2022ES300h
Your information is spot on to what I gathered 2 months ago. Sewell Fort Worth wouldn’t even sell to out of state. This one was definitely a weird purchase, found out later after I reserved it that my car was traded from my local dealer (they were selling it for MSRP), so I had to drive a few hours and wait a couple extra days to get it. Here’s a picture of my purchase agreement and stickerhttps://imgur.com/a/OLaAPvU

great deal! Weird they didn’t calculate sales tax on there?
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Originally Posted by DMATHUR
great deal! Weird they didn’t calculate sales tax on there?
That's because I bought it out of state, I'll have to pay taxes here in OK.
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Originally Posted by DMATHUR
great deal! Weird they didn’t calculate sales tax on there?
The way the contracts and numbers are calculated often don't look like they add up so that isn't so odd. It didn't look like tax was calculated on my deal either but I figured it out and the dealer explained . But I am curious about how/where they've deducted the $1500 from the FULL MSRP of $56K that you mentioned. Could be a case of what I call creative maneuvering or something else. I won't belabour the issue. You paid what you paid and that's all that matters as long as you are happy with it! I'll leave it and say congrats nonetheless on your new ride. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by UltraLux22
The way the contracts and numbers are calculated often don't look like they add up so that isn't so odd. It didn't look like tax was calculated on my deal either but I figured it out and the dealer explained . But I am curious about how/where they've deducted the $1500 from the FULL MSRP of $56K that you mentioned. Could be a case of what I call it creative maneuvering or something else. I won't belabour the issue. You paid what you paid and that's all that matters as long as you are happy with it! I'll leave it and say congrats nonetheless on your new ride. Enjoy!
Thanks! Just trying to be upfront here. They originally quoted me a higher price (still under MSRP), then I noticed a lower price on their website and they matched it. Here is a screenshot from their website, then I had to pay $200 shipping for the dealer trade plus $495 doc fee. They also let me paid that $4000 and change on a credit card.
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Originally Posted by DMATHUR
great deal! Weird they didn’t calculate sales tax on there?
This is how my tax info was originally presented. Granted this was the build sheet but still you can see why someone might have been perplexed.

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Originally Posted by 2022ES300h
Thanks! Just trying to be upfront here. They originally quoted me a higher price (still under MSRP), then I noticed a lower price on their website and they matched it. Here is a screenshot from their website, then I had to pay $200 shipping for the dealer trade plus $495 doc fee. They also let me paid that $4000 and change on a credit card.
Appreciated! That's more corroboration than most provide. Again, congrats on the deal!
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Originally Posted by UltraLux22
This is how my tax info was originally presented. Granted this was the build sheet but still you can see why someone might have been perplexed.
now that is a steal!!! Looks like someone has dirt on the salesman 👀👀👀
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How much below MSRP were folks getting Lexus vehicles that were in the price range of the F Sport for before the pandemic?


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