On paper, you'd hope anyway. The LS forums have plenty of issues. The twin turbo V6s are having issues as well, including on the new Tundra.

You're right about refinement but these new powertrains and tech are... well... new. Everything's new at one point right?

Don't assume new tech with Lexus will be issue free. no ones immune. The germans already have a head start on technology packing and complex powertrains so i feel toyota will have some pains with their new stuff (which they are)

 

You better get used to that. All automakers are going that way, since Tesla did it, it must be perfect and amazing! Every car gets big iPads on the dash going forward whether you like it or not

 

What I am saying it Lexus will take the engine and the tech from 2021 Lexus NX300h and they will fix any kinks and tweak it for 8th ES. I am sure within a year Toyota will fix the described issues in the new Tundra. The Japanese is good at coming up with a fix and not tossing out the bathwater with the baby.

 

I get your point, but given the apparent desire on the part of many car buyers to have lots of gee-whiz tech in fancy screens, the designers' options are rather limited. Yes, some are more smoothly integrated, perhaps, but the Lexus version in the ES is still a lot better than some others that seem to literally glued on to the dash. And I still prefer this to the wall-to-wall "hyper screen" look from Mercedes....that's just way too much!

Assuming we're going to have to live with screens in some form for a long time to come, I just hope that Lexus doesn't fall prey to the elimination of hard buttons for critical features. It's not safe, in my opinion, to have everything on a touch screen.

 

The new NX is a nice compromise - doesn't look like they just gorilla glued an iPad to the dash.

 

Yeah I think it's well done. This should be the new design language going forward for Lexus line-up. The Crown iPad style is outdated but I still like it more compare to the Avalon. That thing is atrocious.

 

Imagine if Lexus builds a high end Corolla clone.
An ES Rolla.

 

Toyota is going to launch the crazy Corolla with 300HP later this year:


Lexus version is probably not far behind.