2022 Toyota Crown: ES killer?
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Originally Posted by ionian;[url=tel:11367618
11367618]again you can't accurately judge a person's height from a video.
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LOL I think it is you making a big deal from a video. The guy didn't disclose his height when he made the statement about head room. Normally when someone makes such a statement it is a common practice to disclose his height so the audience have a point of reference. He either forgot it or got a bone to pick with Toyota. Who knows maybe got up on wrong side of bed that day.
Either way anyone buying should take the vehicle out for a test drive regardless and decide for themselves.
Either way anyone buying should take the vehicle out for a test drive regardless and decide for themselves.
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Originally Posted by ionian;[url=tel:11367648
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Either way anyone buying should take the vehicle out for a test drive regardless and decide for themselves.
Either way anyone buying should take the vehicle out for a test drive regardless and decide for themselves.
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I don't really care for him as a human being, just rubs me the wrong way (not literally LOL) like maybe he was a jock in high school or something? I dunno, maybe he's trying "too hard" to be a character on camera or something. Maybe that's it he seems less natural than other reviewers. I watch some of his vids here and there but skip through the start and end for sure.
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On topic, there are elements I like about the new Crown, like the HP of the Platinum trim, but I find it more of a premium offering. I realize this is a preproduction review but based on what I can see in the video, there are elements that are missing that would be a dealbreaker for me. Manual steering wheel adjustment and limited lumbar controls for the driver and none for the passenger to name a few. I believe once the 8th gen ES comes out, the very few elements where the crown may exceed will be addressed.
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Continuing the OT discussion,
I prefer savagegeese reviews. The production value along with his point of view just lends to a better review, IMO.
On topic, there are elements I like about the new Crown, like the HP of the Platinum trim, but I find it more of a premium offering. I realize this is a preproduction review but based on what I can see in the video, there are elements that are missing that would be a dealbreaker for me. Manual steering wheel adjustment and limited lumbar controls for the driver and none for the passenger to name a few. I believe once the 8th gen ES comes out, the very few elements where the crown may exceed will be addressed.
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On topic, there are elements I like about the new Crown, like the HP of the Platinum trim, but I find it more of a premium offering. I realize this is a preproduction review but based on what I can see in the video, there are elements that are missing that would be a dealbreaker for me. Manual steering wheel adjustment and limited lumbar controls for the driver and none for the passenger to name a few. I believe once the 8th gen ES comes out, the very few elements where the crown may exceed will be addressed.
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Certain convenient features are reserved for Lexus model as the last thing Toyota wants is sales cannibalization into their upscale division.
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I know why they do it but it's stupid. I have a loaded RAV4 Prime and it has power seats, ventilated seats, 360 camera, memory seats, rearview mirror camera, etc, loaded to the gills, but the one thing I want is power steering column adjustment because we both drive the car regularly. Lexus at the end of the day are overpriced Toyotas but alas you have to pay to play.
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Sure but then you have a Hyundai. It has issues you have to deal with and Scotty kilmer can tell you all about them. The man gets going whenever someone says Kia/Hyundai are same as a Toyota / Honda. LOL.
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That Crown reminds me the old Honda Crosstour, I think it was called. It's certainly not the elegant luxury car the 350 ES is. If the Crown becomes Lexus' successor to the ES, I'll simply keep my 2021 ES 350 (only 8k miles on it now) for "the duration." As durable as it is and for as moderately as we gently drive it (5K miles/year or so ), I'm sure it will take this senior citizen couple to "the end" and then some!
Makes me feel like I'm playing a good hand for a change!
Makes me feel like I'm playing a good hand for a change!
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