2019 ES - Enform Suite?
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New Lexus owner here. Bought a CPO ES 350 2019. I installed the Enform App Suite app and the Lexus app on my iPhone. EAS app just has a message that says use the Lexus app now. The Lexus app gave me a trial subscription for Safety Connect and for Wi-fi. But it does not let me do remote start. Do I have to pay for a remote start subscription or is there something I am not understanding?
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See if your fob will remote start it. Three quick presses of LOCK and hold the third down until it starts.
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Right!! I made this back in 2019 just to check something out. I didn’t think I’d actually participate. I’ve tried to figure out how to do just that without creating a whole new profile. I’ve messaged the admins but never received a reply. Maybe someone can tell me if it’s possible. LoL
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If I recall correctly Lexus rearranged the trial period after '19 model year. For your '22 you get 3 year across the board for majority of subscription services. On '19 it all over the place where Remote Service was 1 year(?) and Safety Connect was 10 years. If Lexus doesn't change the course after 3 years the remote start using key fob on your '22 will quit working unless you pay up vs the '19 it's good 10 years. I find the Remote Service useful in my case and I don't mind paying for it. I do pay annual fee as it is a bit cheaper compare to monthly.
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If I recall correctly Lexus rearranged the trial period after '19 model year. For your '22 you get 3 year across the board for majority of subscription services. On '19 it all over the place where Remote Service was 1 year(?) and Safety Connect was 10 years. If Lexus doesn't change the course after 3 years the remote start using key fob on your '22 will quit working unless you pay up vs the '19 it's good 10 years. I find the Remote Service useful in my case and I don't mind paying for it. I do pay annual fee as it is a bit cheaper compare to monthly.
The Key Fob remote start is separate from the Remote start service via the mobile app. Even if the subscription ends and does not renew, remote start using the Key Fob will still work. I'm wondering if that was just worded incorrectly based on the context of the rest of your post. So you can clarify if I've misunderstood.
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Just post your request using the link below:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sit...-here-132.html
You will get a quicker response.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sit...-here-132.html
You will get a quicker response.
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At the end of day any trial will have an expiration date. The era of micro transactions for vehicle features is here to stay.
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It is and it isn't. Toyota tied their remote start to the DCM module which is the brain behind the Connected Services. There are a lot of information flying around and some appear to contract each others regarding the sunset of this feature. From what I gather the key fob start has 3 year trial on 2018+ models. Once that is over if you don't have an active subscription you can't use your key fob to remote start anymore. However some model year has longer trial period. A forum member who is a Lexus sales rep said the 2019 ES has remote key fob start for 10 years. Part of the confusion is shifting strategy from Lexus / Toyota.
At the end of day any trial will have an expiration date. The era of micro transactions for vehicle features is here to stay.
At the end of day any trial will have an expiration date. The era of micro transactions for vehicle features is here to stay.
It was my understanding that the Key Fob remote start was not connected to any remote service subscription. Based on my experience that is correct. If it has changed, I wasn't aware of it. But then there is alot of which I am not aware! LOL
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