ATL350

I'm still exploring all the features of my new 2022 ES UL which I picked up last week. I was wondering what other think of and if/how they use the Smartaccess Key Card it came with. Do you actually carry it with you, like in your wallet or just for times when you don't want to lug the key along? Do you find it actually useful? I didn't specifically ask for the card, but it just came with the car (for about $100, of course). Thoughts? Thanks!

E46CT

that card is from the old days of the CT200h. i think 2011? super duper super old. i think Lexus needs to update something smarter/newer/better instead of using old recycled stuff. i don't know if anyone uses that in 2022? I gave up my wallet years ago so i'd have no where to put that. i'd rather have smartphone/app access.

dezymond

With everyone having smartphones, Lexus should ditch this old "smart" key and just concentrate on making a good phone app. I didn't opt for it in my car, but if it was thrown in I wouldn't mind. Would definitely take up less space in my pocket than a keyfob.

DaveGS4

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nah, it’s super duper super older (words of the day lol?) older than that. Like 2007 I think with the LS, maybe even before that

It works great if you don’t want to carry your key fob, just keep in your wallet or pocket.

don’t disagree smartphone access also would be good

glamglam

I think that the smartaccess card key is very convenient and useful to have around if you forget your key. I never knew that it was an old days thing. It’s very small and thin to carry around in a pocket, purse or bag. I don’t see why people don’t like it.

E46CT

@ DaveGS4, Yeah you're right I was guessing it's older than that but wasn't sure and didn't want to misquote so I just quoted the earliest i saw it. 2007 is even worse!

E46CT

Probably because in light of other manufacturers like Tesla and BMW adopting newer smartphone access. I'd even go for a fingerprint. if iPhones can have a $5.50 device/thumbprint reader, why can't a $50,000 car? Cars can be really old/painfully slow to adopt new technology.

ATL350

True, but there some different considerations on cars such as weather and temperature extremes that smartphones aren’t designed or ruggedized for. That could be a factor.

dezymond

Because if it was really popular then more drivers and other manufacturers would have it. Instead, they've moved onto smartphone apps which is arguably the smartest move to do for any manufacturer at this point, instead of pushing old technology like a smart key card. Even with the key fob you can still remote start if needed, not with the keycard.

E46CT

smart phones can sit at the bottom of a 30 ft lake for days, months on end. so i don't think weather would be a problem. I regularly rinse/wash my iphone 13 pro under the sink /running water.

that wouldn't be hard to work out anyway even if it was an issue. wouldn't be a factor of 99% of customers.

dezymond

Smartphone manufacturers, the big ones anyway, put their phones through extensive stress tests including extreme temperatures and varying conditions. Yes it's sometimes difficult for input to register if water is on your device, say during a storm, but it isn't enough to prevent access. I've also seen where there were tests of using bluetooth LE that sends out the signal to unlock/lock the doors without having to access the app.

I'm not saying smartaccess key is bad, it's just obsolete, much like the cd players still found in the 2022 ES. There are those who still use it and it's great it's still an available option, but the majority have moved on. One thing Toyota/Lexus does very well is perfect older technology and wait for many of the bugs to be worked out on better technology before they implement it themselves.

mikemu30

Uuugggghh imagine the inconvenience of carrying a fob or even worse using a key We're getting spoiled peeps.

UltraLux22

At first I didn't think I would use the key card very often but I found myself not needing the key fob more and more.
I almost never carry the key fob anymore. It's personal preference but I also tend to misplace my keys often. If I want to remote start, I use the Lexus app. If I want to open the trunk, I use my foot for the kick sensor. I avoid using the key fob unless necessary. I keep the card in either my pocket or wallet. The last time I had to use the key fob was to pop the trunk for someone as I was in the house. I rarely use this feature but you would need the key fob to be able to remotely open all of the windows and/or moonroof.

I agree that moving to an app/smartphone based platform would be even better as I am rarely without my phone.

mikemu30

I view carrying around my cell phone as a bigger inconvenience than the keyfob but what choice do I have

UltraLux22

Well you can wait until chips can be implanted in your head and then you can go truly hands free!