7ES Will it last as long as the Japanese made ES?
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ukcats (06-27-22)
06-28-22, 05:30 PM
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This will be my 1st ES built in the US....my previous 2 ES's (2001 & 2005) were built in Japan....so for me, time will tell with my 2020....I have not owned the vehicle long....but I am paying very close attention to things. All I can say is right now the car feels absolutely solid & definitely Lexus quality. I will reserve judgement for the foreseeable future, however (so far) I am not disappointed (I had the same reservations).
To be continued....
To be continued....
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06-28-22, 05:31 PM
#18
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I'm wondering as well. Only time will tell if the Kentucky-built vehicles measure up over the long haul. Generally, I feel the Japanese auto workers may be more caring and scrupulous than their Kentucky brethren, but it is only a hunch. That said, my Japanese built Toyota/Lexus vehicles have been a bit more reliable than my Kentucky made ones. Both are excellent when compared to the competition from other manufactures!
06-28-22, 06:41 PM
#19
So, I foolishly sold our 2022 Lexus GX460, and I have regretted it ever since. I could get another GX, but, went to the dealership last week and put a deposit on a new ES350 Ultra Luxury. I am aware of Lexus legendary quality, and long lasting vehicles, but, I am wondering if the the made in Kentucky 7th Gen ES will last 250-300k miles? What do you guys think?
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Jack1986 (06-28-22)
06-29-22, 08:26 AM
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This excerpt was taken from a 2018 article from my local new station regarding the next generation 2019 Lexus ES 350.
https://www.lex18.com/news/2018/08/0...le-next-month/
The look, feel and sound of Lexus craftsmanship
Lexus team members at the company’s U.S. facility spent more than 150,000 hours training to build the ES model that delivers a fundamentally higher level of performance than its predecessors. That includes sensory training that teaches assemblers, for instance, to feel for an abnormality as minute as a thread of hair.
“After extensive sensory training, our team members rely on sight, sound and touch to know that the craftsmanship of the car is of the highest standard,” said Mike Bridge, Lexus assistant general manager. “A machine can’t make those judgments, and that’s why we take so much time to train before a new model goes into production.”
Bridge said an example of this sensory training can be seen in body weld, where team members are taught to feel gap differences measured in fractions as little as 0.3 millimeters. “This is equal to the thickness of three sheets of paper and can be felt even with gloves on,” he said.
Quality in, quality out
In 2016, after just one year of production, the Lexus line received the Platinum award – a tie with Toyota’s Kyushu 2 plant in Japan – from J.D. Power Initial Quality Study, representing the highest-performing assembly plant in the world for initial quality. The Kentucky Lexus plant has been among the highest J.D. Power rankings every year since.
https://www.lex18.com/news/2018/08/0...le-next-month/
The look, feel and sound of Lexus craftsmanship
Lexus team members at the company’s U.S. facility spent more than 150,000 hours training to build the ES model that delivers a fundamentally higher level of performance than its predecessors. That includes sensory training that teaches assemblers, for instance, to feel for an abnormality as minute as a thread of hair.
“After extensive sensory training, our team members rely on sight, sound and touch to know that the craftsmanship of the car is of the highest standard,” said Mike Bridge, Lexus assistant general manager. “A machine can’t make those judgments, and that’s why we take so much time to train before a new model goes into production.”
Bridge said an example of this sensory training can be seen in body weld, where team members are taught to feel gap differences measured in fractions as little as 0.3 millimeters. “This is equal to the thickness of three sheets of paper and can be felt even with gloves on,” he said.
Quality in, quality out
In 2016, after just one year of production, the Lexus line received the Platinum award – a tie with Toyota’s Kyushu 2 plant in Japan – from J.D. Power Initial Quality Study, representing the highest-performing assembly plant in the world for initial quality. The Kentucky Lexus plant has been among the highest J.D. Power rankings every year since.
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06-29-22, 10:53 AM
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06-29-22, 11:36 AM
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06-29-22, 11:41 AM
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06-29-22, 11:47 AM
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Guys please drop the bickering or don't post.
06-29-22, 01:52 PM
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In 2016, after just one year of production, the Lexus line received the Platinum award – a tie with Toyota’s Kyushu 2 plant in Japan – from J.D. Power Initial Quality Study, representing the highest-performing assembly plant in the world for initial quality. The Kentucky Lexus plant has been among the highest J.D. Power rankings every year since.
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06-29-22, 03:04 PM
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I don't give much credence to JDP in general, and I'm not that interested with "initial quality." I keep my cars from 10 to 30+ years, so, I'm much more concerned with long-term quality. However, even Consumer Reports only rates cars going back 8 years. Consumers shows the ES to be one of the most reliable vehicles of all, including those ES's made in Kentucky!
06-29-22, 03:17 PM
#28
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When I'm shopping for a new car, I'll look at JD Power and Consumer Reports just so see what they say pro and con about models I'm looking at. I don't live and die by their reports but if something pops up about a particular model that catches my eye, I'll check it out on my own. I don't keep my cars much beyond the factory warranty, but I look at long term reliability as it can affect trade in values.
06-29-22, 03:42 PM
#29
It's true that even Consumer Reports only goes out about 7 years. Here's a source that goes back much further: Dashboard Light dotcom, co-founded by veteran auto blogger Steven Lang, which rates used cars' reliability regardless of age.
http://www.dashboard-light.com/click-here-first/
The short version: ES's have held up well to about age 25 (although I still see even older ones around). I think there's cause for optimism.
http://www.dashboard-light.com/click-here-first/
The short version: ES's have held up well to about age 25 (although I still see even older ones around). I think there's cause for optimism.
06-29-22, 04:09 PM
#30
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When I'm shopping for a new car, I'll look at JD Power and Consumer Reports just so see what they say pro and con about models I'm looking at. I don't live and die by their reports but if something pops up about a particular model that catches my eye, I'll check it out on my own. I don't keep my cars much beyond the factory warranty, but I look at long term reliability as it can affect trade in values.