2023 ES updates - OFFICIAL INFO
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I’m very happy with what I have. The place where I come from, back in the day, we used to have donkeys as transportation. One was very lucky to own a donkey. We used to look at the donkey’s teeth to figure out whether or not it was healthy and reliable. Most people who didn’t own a donkey were stuck taking the overcrowded bus everywhere in 95 degree heat without air conditioning. It was horrible.
The 2022 ES350 Ultra Luxury has all the amenities that I need. I’m not complaining like some do in here. Things could’ve been worse and I could’ve been stuck owning a donkey if I didn’t have my 2022 ES350 Ultra Luxury.
The 2022 ES350 Ultra Luxury has all the amenities that I need. I’m not complaining like some do in here. Things could’ve been worse and I could’ve been stuck owning a donkey if I didn’t have my 2022 ES350 Ultra Luxury.
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my wife has the IS300 with turbo four and Lexus just doesn’t do turbo fours as well as Audi or VW. The car is so slow until it hits 3k rpm’s where the VW feels very strong right from idle. My guess is the programming is holding the Lexus back but the wife doesn’t want to tune her car.
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Actually, the Germans took a lot of our donkeys away from us and they used them to transport light weapons and food to their soldiers when we Greeks blew up and burned their Mercedes Benz transport trucks. Our donkeys exemplified bravery during wartime. It was wild times in Greece back then.
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Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but looks like if you zoom in on the promo pics, there's no Hybrid badging on the sides anymore. So i guess that rumor is confirmed.
Guess my debadge was a self fulfilling prophecy. I do miss the hybrid badges though. kind of regret pulling them.
Is the front L badge black now? i'm guessing it is.
Guess my debadge was a self fulfilling prophecy. I do miss the hybrid badges though. kind of regret pulling them.
Is the front L badge black now? i'm guessing it is.
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In this age of eco-friendly-ness I'm surprised Toyota and Lexus are dumping the bodyside Hybrid emblems in 2022. I guess they are trying to save costs?? I don't know what they are thinking.
#98
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I think Toyota/Lexus is working to normalize hybrids and not advertise it with special emblems. For example you won't see a normal ICE car with a badge saying "Engine." lol
also it helps transition to EVs. Toyota's actions like this usually have extremely deliberate purpose and are typically a part of long-term planning and strategy. It's not done ***** nilly.
And yes the icing on the cake is it saves costs. they''l surely love that
also it helps transition to EVs. Toyota's actions like this usually have extremely deliberate purpose and are typically a part of long-term planning and strategy. It's not done ***** nilly.
And yes the icing on the cake is it saves costs. they''l surely love that
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Some folks are actually badge lovers. My coworker drives an RDX - he glued a TypeS badge on it. I don't even think the RDX comes in TypeS🤤
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I like certain badges. I actually like the hybrid badging a lot. it's just a pain to clean in between the letters and it drives me nuts the more crevices there are
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Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but looks like if you zoom in on the promo pics, there's no Hybrid badging on the sides anymore. So i guess that rumor is confirmed.
Guess my debadge was a self fulfilling prophecy. I do miss the hybrid badges though. kind of regret pulling them.
Is the front L badge black now? i'm guessing it is.
Guess my debadge was a self fulfilling prophecy. I do miss the hybrid badges though. kind of regret pulling them.
Is the front L badge black now? i'm guessing it is.
Good catch, but that doesn't mean that they might not offer some designation/badge on the rear, for example. Often these photos of pending redesigns are heavily photoshopped and might not include the final production look. While I agree with another poster who talked about "normalizing" hybrids, I think it still is a selling point to many consumers. As a last resort, of course, you an always buy a badge from a previous model year and stick it on. I did just that with my new 2022 ES UL when I added a NOS "Lexus" badge on the left trunk side where one was for years on other ES's...I just like the look
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#102
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I'm referring to the Hybrid badges on the sides, specific to the ES Hybrid. The rear badge "ES300h" is likely to stay as will the "ES350" badge or any other car's rear model badging. There were prior postings/articles a few month ago that Lexus was planning to get rid of its Hybrid badging across its lineup and these new photos are in line with that.
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Certainly doesn't look very premium. If that's going to be the 8th gen ES they have their work cut out for them! Nothing that wants to call itself a luxury car should have cheap plastic cladding at the wheel arches.
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#104
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Yah I'm worried. This new Avalon replacement, even Toyota goes "Car or SUV?" in its press release. Is this what customers want? Tall big fat cars that look like SUVs? I hope the luxury market doesn't follow. I like the sleek looks of the 7ES. It's high-riding but also looks like it hugs the road down low especially from behind. not a fan of the jacked look.
Apparently from early hands-on reviews it is IMPRESSIVELY quiet. Toyota is bragging about new noise suppression technology, fully laminated glass, etc.
Apparently from early hands-on reviews it is IMPRESSIVELY quiet. Toyota is bragging about new noise suppression technology, fully laminated glass, etc.
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Please use the Toyota Crown thread we've got running in Car Chat to discuss that vehicle, thanks. Crown related posts moved there.
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