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Old 07-12-22 | 05:13 AM
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Audi A6 55.
Isn't that in a different ballpark price wise?
Old 07-12-22 | 07:33 AM
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It's not placebo. It absolutely affects steering. That's the telltale classic trademark of all Lexus cars with a drive-mode selector. My CT did it, my IS did it, and now my ES did it (stiffens steering in sport mode) It's extremely obvious (and annoying!)
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Originally Posted by E46CT
It's not placebo. It absolutely affects steering. That's the telltale classic trademark of all Lexus cars with a drive-mode selector. My CT did it, my IS did it, and now my ES did it (stiffens steering in sport mode) It's extremely obvious (and annoying!)
I must be asleep at the wheel () or it's just I just never drive in anything but SPORT. I'm using NORMAL on my way home today to see how obvious this truly is.
Old 07-12-22 | 07:48 AM
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It's probably most noticeable at lower speeds... try 15-30 mph or so and just turn the wheel back and forth as you toggle the modes. pay attention to the force needed. of course i haven't driven the F sport but i'm fairly certain it would work the same way.
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
Isn't that in a different ballpark price wise?
Maybe just a little!


Old 07-12-22 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 703
Audi A6 55.
I am actually going to be trading in my 2014 Audi A6 for a 2023 Lexus ES350. That A6 drives great but I have had so many reliability issues with only 42k miles. I would not buy another Audi.
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Old 07-12-22 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by UTChE96
I am actually going to be trading in my 2014 Audi A6 for a 2023 Lexus ES350. That A6 drives great but I have had so many reliability issues with only 42k miles. I would not buy another Audi.
I would never buy an Audi either. I would only lease and avoid those long term issues. Considering rates and pricing, I will be waiting a while!
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The A6 is such a nice car. Looks good (though kinda plain now), feels luxurious, great driving dynamics, but all that comes at a premium, with the listed price above. My ES300h offers the same, luxuries at $15-20k less AND is reliable as clockwork. A German make car outside of a warranty, no thanks.

I considered an S4 and an S5 before deciding on the ES. End of the day, it just didn't make sense to go the performance sedan route. Perhaps in the future.
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Old 07-13-22 | 04:39 AM
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The A6 reminds me of the glory days where I had my GS460. Just a solid, smooth and powerful sedan. Every time you hop in, you know it’s something special on the road.

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Old 07-13-22 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by UTChE96
I am actually going to be trading in my 2014 Audi A6 for a 2023 Lexus ES350. That A6 drives great but I have had so many reliability issues with only 42k miles. I would not buy another Audi.
I have an Audi Q5 v6 2016 and have had tons of issues with it. I wouldn't get another Audi again in my life. Although the new ones look good, they are extremely unreliable. I am going for the es 350, however I'm waiting for the dealer to officially sell it
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Old 07-14-22 | 04:54 AM
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At the start of the pandemic I switched from Audi to Lexus as I didn't want to be on first name basis with service people anymore.I owned 3 Audis and now I like my "boring" Lexus. LOL.
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Old 07-14-22 | 06:52 AM
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I had an Audi Q5 followed by an A6. Both were great cars with no major issues in either one. Considering the UL (probably 350, not sure) right now.
Old 08-03-22 | 07:14 PM
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Default 2018 ES 350 to 2022 ES 300h

Seriously considering trading my 2018 350 (35,000 miles on it) in and getting a 300h.

Aside from the reduced horse power and transmission what other considerations should I be thinking about?

Positives are gas mileage, maintenance, and new body style.

I currently have a pano roof and I know that is not available.

Thanks!
Old 08-03-22 | 08:18 PM
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Hybrid owners will jump in with better answers, but I think the new one has a lot to recommend it:
•Touchscreen
•Better handling with the new chassis
•Probably quieter
•Better self-driving features
Old 08-03-22 | 08:24 PM
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I don't see any reason not to upgrade, if you can afford it, do it instantly.

I have a '22 ES300h UL.


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