Mrbungle11

I love the f sport model rims black trims red black seats.
no Panoramic roof cause a hybrid (darn Lexus)
whats luxury and ultra luxury and f sports.
it’s getting confusing
I will show a link of options listed.
I think it has all I need expect 360 over view camera. Should I go for sport or should I go your ultra luxury. Is the. A different in anything
please help me club Lexus went from looking at. ls500/ls460l now I decided I’ll buy it new and I just don’t want to spend time and


$$ at the pump no more.

JamesAZ

If you're coming from an LS, the Ultra Luxury will be a better transition. But if you're wanting something a bit more sporty, go for the F Sport. Really, it's in the name. F Sport for a sportier ES, Ultra Luxury for the most luxurious ES.

Easiest way to compare all the trims will be via this link:

https://www.lexus.com/models/ES?link[model_overlay_infolayer][SHOW_PAGE]=true&link[model_infolayer][setActiveTab]=0

ESh

UL all day.

Mrbungle11

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sorry I meant I was looking to buy an 2016/2017 ls460l loaded
or an 2019-2020 ls500 luxury package
I have a 2010 gs350 I used my car for work like
80ish miles a day so I fill up Premium every two days and it’s so expensive
I’m gonna sell the wheels cause it’s 19 and black
nyc road is like a roller coaster.
thank you for your reply

Mrbungle11

please let me know why
All I care about is mpg and also look kinda good and comfortable
I love the Previous model es Lexus tone down the interior it’s’more two-tone ( light colors the rear seats is not continuous with the color interior the seat in red and the rest armrest was all one color and I like the Old triple beam led better Like the 2019-2021

Mrbungle11

i did but there so many options
lexus made the site so confusing..

UltraLux22

Production has ended for the 22 model year for the ES and while production may be starting for 23, It’ll be some time for loaded luxury and ultra luxury models to become available. Ultra luxury is going to be your best bet because it has the most features options available included with the trim. Several features that you might find in ultra luxury trim, or even luxury trim will not be available in F sport if that’s what you’re looking for. Given the current market conditions, inventory levels are extremely low, so good luck in trying to find what you’re looking for. You will need it and will likely have to search outside your area to find it.

ESh

The first reason is the F sport is very Lexus unlike. It does’t have the equipment that the Luxury/UL has, let alone the luxury and feeling. And then, the black wheels…on a Lexus executive sedan…

LexBob2

Am I reading this correctly that you fill up 3-4 times a week with an 80 mile/day commute?

LexFinally

The short version: F Sport has the sporty look, while UL has leather, extra soundproofing and more toys. (Luxury is just UL with the rear-door manual sunshades removed. You'll find very few of them in the current shortages anyway.)

A surprising number of features are NOT standard, even on UL: panoramic roof, triple beam LED headlights, navigation/Levinson audio. But in the real world, most UL's will be built with them.

If you were getting the V6, the F Sport would also offer the option of an adjustable-firnness suspension. But in the hybrid, it's basically an appearance and interior trim package.

JamesAZ

The UL is essentially a baby LS. Granted, the Luxury after the 2021MY (iirc) is pretty close to it as well. So you can’t go wrong with the Luxury either if you can’t find an Ultra Luxury.

But to explain why I got an Ultra Luxury over an F Sport to help clear it up:

-18inch vs 19inch rims. Makes for a softer smoother ride
-Acoustic laminated windows. Laminated windows are a huge game changer that it honestly makes me want to find a way to get the rear windows installed with them… if you drive a car without them back to back with a car with them, you’ll easily hear the difference. It’s huge.
-More soundproofing. Even over the Luxury trim. Mostly in the firewall, but it makes the engine sounds super smooth and quiet.
-Semi-aniline leather. Luxury has this too, but the F-Sport doesn’t. It’s really smooth, soft, comfortable, and ages very well.
-14 way seat. I honestly didn’t think I’d care much for the thigh extender, but after I set up my seat perfectly, I quite literally just relax and drive. The thigh extender places my feet perfectly at the pedals so I don’t have to stretch my legs out to reach them. I just sit down, and my feet are already at the pedals.
-Noise cancelling wheels

LS500Fan

I traded my LS500 for a ES300h UL earlier this year, no regrets. I miss the massaging seat but don’t miss the laggy powertrain, premium fuel, lack of spare tire, size when parking, etc.

The ES UL really is a baby LS500. They almost even look identical (well before the 21-22 LS headlight redesign).

LS500Fan

Buy the ES hybrid for sure.

dezymond

I have the 2022 ES 300h F Sport and have been very happy with it. There's a few minor gripes I have with the how Lexus decided to option out the trim, but oh well.

In my 6k miles of driving over the last 4 months, I love it. Looks damn good, has excellent fuel economy, very comfortable, very quiet, and has a bunch of a nice features.

Pros:
- Everything listed above
- UI is great with a nice huge screen. I only wish that Android Auto takes up the whole screen, and I think CarPlay does. (No, I don't like the iPhone and I have tried it many times throughout the years.)
- Kick sensor trunk, this was way underrated for me and an option I initially didn't want. It's been super helpful and am glad my allocated unit has it.
- Headlights illuminate sides more when turning. This is an underrated feature, but I think the biggest thing against it are the bigger pillars, but perhaps that may just be due to my seating position. Either way they're super helpful and pretty cool feature.
- The car handles very well and is well planted imo. Sure there's some body roll, but nothing compared to my old ride which was advertised as a sports sedan but was far from it. I love how low the ES sits and feels.

Cons:
- F Sport doesn't come with memory seats. This is a $55-60k luxury vehicle depending on options and none of it includes memory seats. Bad move imo Lexus.
- Auto reverse side mirror tilt. (Same gripe as above)
- App is slow as can be, get it together Toyota/Lexus.
- Wish there were accent lighting inside

mikemu30

That's one person's subjective opinion. Mine is FSport all day. Do you like vanilla ice cream or chocolate?