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Need advise to pick the right ES300h vs ES350 2019-2022
Sorry but I'm not sure if this was asked before.
I'm in the market for an ES300H since there are many great reviews about MPG, but I'm worried about the maintenance cost of the hybrid battery and the horsepower vs the ES350 traditional ? Should I get the ES350 V6 traditional instead, we plan to keep the car long term. We lived on the east coast and never owned a hybrid car before.
Also, Which year should I avoid? or are there any issues/recall for a specific year ?
Currently owned: GX470 and RX350 2019
Any advice you could give would be much appreciated.
there's nearly zero additional maintenance cost due to being a hybrid. in fact it's quite the opposite. the hybrid is actually the low maintenance option.
the battery doesn't have any nor require any maintenance.
if it ever needs to be replaced in 15-20 years, 1) it's much cheaper and easier than a transmission to replace and 2) not only is it cheap today, but it will be even cheaper in 20 years.
in other words, it is the ideal choice for low cost maintenance lovers. that's why I got one.
in addition, there's no belts, there's virtually no transmission, no pulleys, the brakes last a lifetime. it's basically a sealed engine and a battery pulling you along.
It honestly all comes down to which one you like more. When I was in the market and doing test driving, the 300H and 350 both had their pros (honestly no cons) and I just went for whichever I came across in the configuration I wanted first, which happened to be the 350. Sure, I may have saved $500/year in gas and the brake pads will last twice as long if I got a 300H, but that's not enough savings for me to justify getting a configuration I would have regretted.
As for avoiding any years, not really. The only thing I'd say is to get a 2020+ since you get power folding side mirrors. There's a thread about rear speaker issues on the 2019s, but I don't think it applies to the Mark Levinson system. At least not in mine. But otherwise, the 7th Gen has been amazing.
But as @E46CT said, the battery will be the least of your worries. It'll probably cost $1k to replace it by the time it gives you issues:
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Quick question for the hybrid model, how the car performance on winter season? /with light snow here in Virginia. Also if the all hybrid model required lexus dealer to service? Or good local shop can handle handle machanical or hybrid battery replacement? 1-2k for a battery sound like a very good deal to me.
To be honest, I can't buy the brand new car due to the limited inventory, local dealer not allow me to choose the color or trim I want with up bump up a small convenient fees or have to wait in the wait list. Regarding the 300h is hard to find a "good" deal near my area, many people give up the long wait of the NX Hybrid+ (plug-in).
The most of CPO or Used car market nearby offered more ES350U & UL (lease&fleet) /w very good deal...
Have you driven a 300h and a 350? Best to go out and test drive both models and then form your own opinions. Objectively speaking, you won't have to worry about the battery, as the others have said and both vehicles are reliable and will last you a long time. Subjectively speaking, I'm 100% happy with my 300h and it being my first hybrid. Coming from a V6, I honestly don't miss the power as the 300h has more than enough power and is quick enough. Definitely happy to fill up only once every 12 days on average versus filling up twice a week like before.
Have you driven a 300h and a 350? Best to go out and test drive both models and then form your own opinions. Objectively speaking, you won't have to worry about the battery, as the others have said and both vehicles are reliable and will last you a long time. Subjectively speaking, I'm 100% happy with my 300h and it being my first hybrid. Coming from a V6, I honestly don't miss the power as the 300h has more than enough power and is quick enough. Definitely happy to fill up only once every 12 days on average versus filling up twice a week like before.
I have drove the es350 2018 3.5 V6, the car offer lots of power but only to the fwd, I will find out 300h to test drives. Sound like definitely worth the wait for the hybrid one.
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Quick question for the hybrid model, how the car performance on winter season? /with light snow here in Virginia. Also if the all hybrid model required lexus dealer to service? Or good local shop can handle handle machanical or hybrid battery replacement? 1-2k for a battery sound like a very good deal to me.
To be honest, I can't buy the brand new car due to the limited inventory, local dealer not allow me to choose the color or trim I want with up bump up a small convenient fees or have to wait in the wait list. Regarding the 300h is hard to find a "good" deal near my area, many people give up the long wait of the NX Hybrid+ (plug-in).
The most of CPO or Used car market nearby offered more ES350U & UL (lease&fleet) /w very good deal...
Thank you 🙌🙌🙌
People use their Prius just fine in the snow. The 300H has 215hp and 163lb-ft, and the Prius has 121hp and 105lb-ft. Albeit with an extra 700pounds, but it'll be just fine.
As for maintence, I used to take my Prius to a local mechanic, so I imagine that'll be the same for the ES 300H. And there's a handful of companies around me that specialize in replacing hybrid batteries so I'd assume it's that way everywhere else.
People use their Prius just fine in the snow. The 300H has 215hp and 163lb-ft, and the Prius has 121hp and 105lb-ft. Albeit with an extra 700pounds, but it'll be just fine.
As for maintence, I used to take my Prius to a local mechanic, so I imagine that'll be the same for the ES 300H. And there's a handful of companies around me that specialize in replacing hybrid batteries so I'd assume it's that way everywhere else.
Yeah, first of all i was looking for the CT200h 2014-2017 but the prices for those still hold good value. I end up looking forward for the Es300h 🙌 sound like a great car. Appreciated the feedback.
Yeah, first of all i was looking for the CT200h 2014-2017 but the prices for those still hold good value. I end up looking forward for the Es300h 🙌 sound like a great car. Appreciated the feedback.
I would get at least a 2020 model year. I usually don't buy 1st year new gen cars. Also, with the 2020 ES came power mirrors and Android Auto if you care about that.
I would get at least a 2020 model year. I usually don't buy 1st year new gen cars. Also, with the 2020 ES came power mirrors and Android Auto if you care about that.
same here, I used to own 1st year of new gen cars that I will adjust my search for 2020 - 2022. All manufacturers chase and push production on the new design and ignore the quality control. built first then recalled later happens a lot in the 1st year of the new generation.
Jameaz call out some good point for 2020 - 2022.
"As for avoiding any years, not really. The only thing I'd say is to get a 2020+ since you get power folding side mirrors. There's a thread about rear speaker issues on the 2019s, but I don't think it applies to the Mark Levinson system. At least not in mine. But otherwise, the 7th Gen has been amazing."
same here, I used to own 1st year of new gen cars that I will adjust my search for 2020 - 2022. All manufacturers chase and push production on the new design and ignore the quality control. built first then recalled later happens a lot in the 1st year of the new generation.
Jameaz call out some good point for 2020 - 2022.
"As for avoiding any years, not really. The only thing I'd say is to get a 2020+ since you get power folding side mirrors. There's a thread about rear speaker issues on the 2019s, but I don't think it applies to the Mark Levinson system. At least not in mine. But otherwise, the 7th Gen has been amazing."
If you get a 2020 just be aware there were some very early 2020 models (Maybe the first month they built them) that actually don't have Android Auto if you care about that, and they can't be upgraded. Just make sure you ask the question before buying.
11-15-22, 07:29 PM
Need advise to pick the right ES300h vs ES350 2019-2022
