Michelin Cross Climate 2 Performance
04-26-23, 09:40 AM
#31
The EL 440's really are crap. Worst tire I have ever had. Car felt like slug at a light. I swapped mine out with the MIchelin Primacy Touring A/S's and a huge night and day difference.
05-01-23, 04:53 AM
#32
I’m needing new tires soon on my 2019 UL… first set of new tires (~28k miles). I’m very interested in the CC2, but we live in North Texas and while we occasionally get some snow, it is rare. I’m thinking the CC2 may be too aggressive of a tread pattern for what’s needed here and if I lose gas mileage or if they are at all noisy I’d be disappointed.
But, my other big question is - do they have the ‘rim protector’ built into the tire… the added ridge of stiff rubber around the rim to ‘help’ prevent curb rash? I’ve searched the websites and can’t find mention of it; and in online photos of the tire it is not evident. I’m guessing they don’t?
But, my other big question is - do they have the ‘rim protector’ built into the tire… the added ridge of stiff rubber around the rim to ‘help’ prevent curb rash? I’ve searched the websites and can’t find mention of it; and in online photos of the tire it is not evident. I’m guessing they don’t?
05-01-23, 12:09 PM
#33
I had heard good things about Bridgestone's QuietTrack tire and recently bought a set for my wife's SUV. They are nice, quiet and smooth, but we only put about 3K km's on them. I like their 130K km warranty and the price was less than CC2's. When my ES 350 F-Sport tires are due for replacement, I will definitely consider them.
05-01-23, 04:58 PM
#34
I’m needing new tires soon on my 2019 UL… first set of new tires (~28k miles). I’m very interested in the CC2, but we live in North Texas and while we occasionally get some snow, it is rare. I’m thinking the CC2 may be too aggressive of a tread pattern for what’s needed here and if I lose gas mileage or if they are at all noisy I’d be disappointed.
But, my other big question is - do they have the ‘rim protector’ built into the tire… the added ridge of stiff rubber around the rim to ‘help’ prevent curb rash? I’ve searched the websites and can’t find mention of it; and in online photos of the tire it is not evident. I’m guessing they don’t?
But, my other big question is - do they have the ‘rim protector’ built into the tire… the added ridge of stiff rubber around the rim to ‘help’ prevent curb rash? I’ve searched the websites and can’t find mention of it; and in online photos of the tire it is not evident. I’m guessing they don’t?
As for your North Texas conditions, with your lack of winter weather to account for and desire for a comfortable ride, I'd consider Michelin Primacy.
05-01-23, 05:04 PM
#35
Fun fact about "aggressive" tread patterns:
You'd think that tire treads are designed to achieve their makers' performance goals and the way they look is the way they look, but you might be wrong. I recall reading several years back that Goodyear was showing prospective tread patterns to focus groups, and then changing them based on what the consumers guessed the tires would do just from looking at them. Apparently this was how the Assurance "TripleTred" came to be; they wanted to market it by saying "This part is for wet traction, and this part is for this, and this third part is for that." I knew tire sidewalls were the object of styling, but treads? Ugh.
You'd think that tire treads are designed to achieve their makers' performance goals and the way they look is the way they look, but you might be wrong. I recall reading several years back that Goodyear was showing prospective tread patterns to focus groups, and then changing them based on what the consumers guessed the tires would do just from looking at them. Apparently this was how the Assurance "TripleTred" came to be; they wanted to market it by saying "This part is for wet traction, and this part is for this, and this third part is for that." I knew tire sidewalls were the object of styling, but treads? Ugh.
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