Defect Window Micro-Scratches?
#1
Pit Crew
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Defect Window Micro-Scratches?
Does anyone have or noticed if their windows are permanently streaked or have micro-scratches? Here are two photos of the front two windows and what I'm experiencing.
Last edited by r1supersta; 02-10-23 at 07:32 PM.
#2
I assume you have tried cleaning the glass to see if it in fact will rub off? Perhaps that's just some sort of film that was not cleaned properly prior to installation. If they are actually scratches, have you reported it to the dealership? Perhaps something in the door is misaligned or there is a defective or mispositioned seal that is rubbing the glass. Either way this is a new car and they should look into it - that is not normal.
Last edited by ATL350; 02-11-23 at 12:54 PM.
#3
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I assume you have tried cleaning the glass to see if it in fact will rub off? Perhaps that's just some sort of film that was not cleaned properly prior to installation. If they are actually scratches, have you reported it to the dealership? Perhaps something in the door is misaligned or there is a defective or mispositioned seal that is rubbing the glass. Either way this is a new car and they should look into it - that is not normal.
The first time I noticed it was when I had the car windows tinted @ 150 miles and two weeks old. The driver's door had a vertical band about 2-3" wide on the entire glass. I took the car back to the tint shop since that's what I thought it was. Turns out it was the glass. I went back to the dealership to have them look at it; they ended up ordering two windows. The pictures I posted in this thread are of the brand new windows, 2 hours old. Now I feel bad having to call the dealer again to discuss the issues. The windows are worse this time around vs the original ones.
Last edited by r1supersta; 02-11-23 at 03:03 PM.
#4
Silly question, but did you inspect the new windows at the dealership after they were installed? If yes and the scratching wasn't there, then you certainly should go back. If that's the case then something in the window/door assembly is causing that, such as the weather stripping or some insulation. I understand you're feeling a bit hesitant to go back so soon, but that's actually the right time, the sooner the better as the old saying goes. You have a beautiful new car and this shouldn't be happening.
#5
This is from the defect weather strip. They should inspect it.
#6
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Silly question, but did you inspect the new windows at the dealership after they were installed? If yes and the scratching wasn't there, then you certainly should go back. If that's the case then something in the window/door assembly is causing that, such as the weather stripping or some insulation. I understand you're feeling a bit hesitant to go back so soon, but that's actually the right time, the sooner the better as the old saying goes. You have a beautiful new car and this shouldn't be happening.
I had my wife take the car in Friday morning to have the windows swapped out. I wasn't able to inspect it until I got home from work; at 630pm. She mentioned to me that she didn't roll down either window from the time of pick-up until I got home to check it out. I told her the service department probably did as they had to check the functionality of the windows. I will call the service department tomorrow morning.
Thanks!
#7
Try using an alcohol pad and cleaning your windows and see if the scratches come off.
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#9
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I had this on both my brand new 2021 ES300hes. It must be a supplier issue. I basically took a machine polisher and some M105 meguiars (though you can use anything you want) and polished it out. Glass was perfection after. Clay did not work, hand polishing did not work. The etching is STRONG. almost baked in.
The fact that this was like this on two brand new cars led me to believe it's a manufacture thing. i bet it happened to more people but they're not sensitive enough to know they have it. only appears under certain lighting.
The fact that this was like this on two brand new cars led me to believe it's a manufacture thing. i bet it happened to more people but they're not sensitive enough to know they have it. only appears under certain lighting.
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#11
Lexus Test Driver
Also do not take to dealers -- they'll fix the glass issue but introduce other problems, stain the headliner, scratch the roof with the little cone things, etc. This is why i'm hesitant to take my new Tesla in for the scratched windshield. i am going to polish it out myself using glass polish
#12
Im convinced employees maliciously slammed the cone things on my roof one day. I went to a dealership for service, not the one I bought my car at and it has the name of their competitors dealership on my license plate frame. There was a lot of giggling and employees one after another slammed a different cone on my roof changing it multiple times.
#13
Lexus Test Driver
^yikes. yeah i took my first 7ES into the dealer to have them fix the scratched dash panel and while in service, the service lady slams the cone on my roof (drags it) and sure enough when i got home i found some fairly deep scratches in the clear coat. rather than take it back for them to fix it and cause 2 more problems, i just polished it out myself. they treat cars like another number
#14
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I had this on both my brand new 2021 ES300hes. It must be a supplier issue. I basically took a machine polisher and some M105 meguiars (though you can use anything you want) and polished it out. Glass was perfection after. Clay did not work, hand polishing did not work. The etching is STRONG. almost baked in.
The fact that this was like this on two brand new cars led me to believe it's a manufacture thing. i bet it happened to more people but they're not sensitive enough to know they have it. only appears under certain lighting.
The fact that this was like this on two brand new cars led me to believe it's a manufacture thing. i bet it happened to more people but they're not sensitive enough to know they have it. only appears under certain lighting.
#15
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I had this on both my brand new 2021 ES300hes. It must be a supplier issue. I basically took a machine polisher and some M105 meguiars (though you can use anything you want) and polished it out. Glass was perfection after. Clay did not work, hand polishing did not work. The etching is STRONG. almost baked in.
And is this the compound? Meguiar's® Mirror Glaze® Ultra-Cut Compound, M10532, 32 oz., Liquid | Meguiar's (meguiars.com)
Last edited by r1supersta; 02-23-23 at 08:23 PM.