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#47
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I knew I would offend people by making a Buick to Lexus comparision (I do occasionally like to "stir the pot") - but that's my experience!
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Don't get me wrong, the ES is an overall good car, but I'm not sure it's what legend has it. Again this is my first and maybe it was the rare anomoly. I somehow don't think that's the case based upon other postings and others I know with other models. Furthermore, the dealer's explanation "every car has its issues" is disappointing. I thought we were supposed to expect more from Lexus?
My intention here is not to woe about these issues (I'm sure someone will blast me for this), but rather have a honest dialogue and keep a realistic view of Lexus and the competition.
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#48
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Yes, the 3.8 engine & 4 speed transmission was a rock solid combo... and it is was old technology that had been tweaked for years. It was smooth, quiet and reliable. The woes of the direct injection/ 5 speed/ 6 speed (new technology) have rendered some havoc on the early adopters (mostly foriegn). The domestics have just started to cross that hurdle.
I knew I would offend people by making a Buick to Lexus comparision (I do occasionally like to "stir the pot") - but that's my experience!
Don't get me wrong, the ES is an overall good car, but I'm not sure it's what legend has it. Again this is my first and maybe it was the rare anomoly. I somehow don't think that's the case based upon other postings and others I know with other models. Furthermore, the dealer's explanation "every car has its issues" is disappointing. I thought we were supposed to expect more from Lexus?
My intention here is not to woe about these issues (I'm sure someone will blast me for this), but rather have a honest dialogue and keep a realistic view of Lexus and the competition.![Cool](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
I knew I would offend people by making a Buick to Lexus comparision (I do occasionally like to "stir the pot") - but that's my experience!
![Sad](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
Don't get me wrong, the ES is an overall good car, but I'm not sure it's what legend has it. Again this is my first and maybe it was the rare anomoly. I somehow don't think that's the case based upon other postings and others I know with other models. Furthermore, the dealer's explanation "every car has its issues" is disappointing. I thought we were supposed to expect more from Lexus?
My intention here is not to woe about these issues (I'm sure someone will blast me for this), but rather have a honest dialogue and keep a realistic view of Lexus and the competition.
![Cool](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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#50
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Thanks Mister Two! ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Changes are VERY slight.....but I do like the larger grille, fogs....I personally can't see any difference on the side view....and very minor change to the tail lights.....any idea if they are now LED?![Thumb Up](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Did I miss anything for the exterior?
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Changes are VERY slight.....but I do like the larger grille, fogs....I personally can't see any difference on the side view....and very minor change to the tail lights.....any idea if they are now LED?
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Did I miss anything for the exterior?
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Last edited by Mister Two; 08-06-09 at 10:48 AM.
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Some more pics of a different car (this one has a different color and a panoramic sunroof) with the taillights on. Not very LED-ish looking though.
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Last edited by Mister Two; 08-06-09 at 11:37 AM.
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I'm not feeling the grille and the foglights. Signal mirrors, door chrome and taillamps are good updates.
The original 5ES in non-NA markets (to my knowledge, only Korea, Taiwan and China) had signal lamps on the front fenders. I still do not understand why such an important safety item is not required in the US, either on the fender or on the mirrors.
Question: Since China will have an ES240, will Taiwan and Korea also have it?
Awesome leak, guys!
The original 5ES in non-NA markets (to my knowledge, only Korea, Taiwan and China) had signal lamps on the front fenders. I still do not understand why such an important safety item is not required in the US, either on the fender or on the mirrors.
Question: Since China will have an ES240, will Taiwan and Korea also have it?
Awesome leak, guys!
Last edited by superchan7; 08-06-09 at 01:41 PM.
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I'm likin' pretty much all the updates.....now to see the interior...
And are those LED tail lights? I can't tell.
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Last edited by Lexusfreak; 08-06-09 at 04:51 PM.