The First Lexus BEV: Lexus RZ 450e First Impressions
06-27-23, 07:57 PM
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My point, exactly. Surprising. Disappointing. Kinda like a good student turning in subpar work, but on a larger scale. I have to believe they could have done better. My question is, why didn't they? It's a mystery to me.
But I am waiting imapatiently for the Highland!
But I am waiting imapatiently for the Highland!
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06-27-23, 08:04 PM
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06-27-23, 08:04 PM
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My grade on it is a C+ or B-, so far from what ya'll are saying.
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06-28-23, 12:07 PM
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It's really no mystery. I think they truly thought hydrogen was the answer, kinda of like how Sony bet on Betamax over VHS, which was actually better in some ways. When hydrogen turned out to not be as easy as they thought, they got caught off guard. COVID and supply chain shortages didn't help the situation and just made things worse
06-28-23, 12:26 PM
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06-29-23, 03:15 AM
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We had similar type of problem before with diesels in Europe, where after dpf filters were 4-5 years old and started failing catastrophically, TMME started telling dealers that customers should not drive these cars in the cities, but on highways, where they can regenerate regularly before the problem happens (when it is too late) - but nobody told this warning to the customer before the purchase.
Since Toyota now started a separate BEV arm of the company, I hope they give them BEV cars to drive from different manufacturers (hopefully Tesla) so they can see what they are missing. It might be a new thing for Toyota, but BEVs are now several generations old.
Since Toyota now started a separate BEV arm of the company, I hope they give them BEV cars to drive from different manufacturers (hopefully Tesla) so they can see what they are missing. It might be a new thing for Toyota, but BEVs are now several generations old.
Re: their diesels - DPFs in general were and still are a problem for everybody if driven in city conditions - nothing to be done about it. People should not be buying diesels for city usage anyways for a lot of other reasons. As for failing - it's usually due to burning oil, fuel soot alone (assuming proper ULSD) shouldn't "permanently" clog a DPF. Anyways, the 2AD series aren't exactly known as very reliable engines for reasons other than the DPF :P
06-29-23, 07:52 AM
#22
Hydrogen is very expensive and there are virtually no filling stations. EV filling stations are everywhere.
06-29-23, 08:26 AM
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It's a bet that didn't pay off because they didn't go big enough. If you believe in something, you bet big on it. Elon believed BEV's were viable and bet the house on them, which meant building out massive charging infrastructure and not just cars. From all the Googling I did, it looks like between Toyota and Shell they promised a $10B Euro investment, but I don't even think that panned out
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