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Old 03-01-24, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Tesla stands to earn billions of dollars a year by opening U.S. charging stations to drivers of Ford and other EVs



https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/29/tesl...rd-others.html
CNBS with a positive Tesla article? Better late then never I guess.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
People shopping for a Tesla aren’t typically cross-shopping at Kia, Ford, or Mercedes-Benz dealers because they simply want a Tesla,” Fiorani wrote. “Competition will continue to heat up and Tesla will inevitably lose some sales to rivals, but loyalty to the brand means the vast majority of owners will return to Tesla with little or no comparison shopping.”
I disagree with that, but maybe it's just me. I cross shopped against VW, Kia, Hyundai, Volvo, Ford and Audi. Our reasons for choosing the Tesla were based on several factors, with the charging network being one of them, but not the biggest. The dealer experience was a far greater deterrent than that.
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Originally Posted by Mike728
I disagree with that, but maybe it's just me. I cross shopped against VW, Kia, Hyundai, Volvo, Ford and Audi. Our reasons for choosing the Tesla were based on several factors, with the charging network being one of them, but not the biggest. The dealer experience was a far greater deterrent than that.
I think times have changed, people are now cross shopping more, and with Tesla opening up their chargers there will probably be more cross shopping. The dealer experience is definitely a huge barrier for me
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Musk said Tesla cars would rise in value, but here’s what really happened | CNN Business
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Musk is no prophet, but they did manage to sell 1,808,581 EV's (up from 1.3 million from the year before), and had the two best selling cars in California and one worldwide. Plus I can now pickup a Model X for $79k. Seems like a win-win to me 👍
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"Our cars will go up in value after purchase" LOL....what a charlatan.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
"Our cars will go up in value after purchase" LOL....what a charlatan.
HIs comment was based on his bet on Tesla's self driving AI. Apparently, once he flips the switch, he will have millions of robo taxis. Whether that will become true is not certain.
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I think we can be certain lol
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Only if you're an MK4 Supra.

I want what he's sniffing.

I don't think it helps his cause when they had to drop prices because of fast eroding market share

In 2020, Tesla made 80% of all EVs sold in America, according to *** Automotive. By 2022, its EV market share had fallen to 64%. Last year, it fell further to 55%


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Originally Posted by asj2024
Only if you're an MK4 Supra.

I want what he's sniffing.

I don't think it helps his cause when they had to drop prices because of fast eroding market share

In 2020, Tesla made 80% of all EVs sold in America, according to *** Automotive. By 2022, its EV market share had fallen to 64%. Last year, it fell further to 55%
The only EVs available in 2020 were the Tesla's, Taycan, Bolt, Leaf, I-Pace, E-Tron, Niro, Ioniq and Kona. There was no real competition in 2020. Heck in 2020, Tesla only made 500K cars. In Q4 2023 alone they made almost 500K cars.

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Originally Posted by asj2024
Only if you're an MK4 Supra.

I want what he's sniffing.

I don't think it helps his cause when they had to drop prices because of fast eroding market share

In 2020, Tesla made 80% of all EVs sold in America, according to *** Automotive. By 2022, its EV market share had fallen to 64%. Last year, it fell further to 55%
There was no competition in 2020. Besides the $60k Model 3, your options were limited to a Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Ioniq EV with 138 HP and 150 miles range or a 200 HP Chevy bolt with 170 mile range, both took over an hour to super charge with extremely limited access to chargers.

Brilliant move on Tesla's part. Now they dominate the EV market and the Model Y is the world's best selling car and all the other automakers are struggling.

According to the WSJ, LSD is his favorite. Mushrooms as well 😁
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Brilliant move on Tesla's part. Now they dominate the EV market and the Model Y is the world's best selling car and all the other automakers are struggling.

According to the WSJ, LSD is his favorite. Mushrooms as well 😁
Fanboyism at its finest

You do know an 80% share (instead of a dropping 55% share) means they dominated more earlier?

And as far as I know, Tesla is in the same boat as all EV makers, and in fact its stock is dropping today by 12 points (6%) on weaker demand.






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Originally Posted by asj2024
Fanboyism at its finest

You do know an 80% share (instead of a dropping 55% share) means they dominated more earlier?

And as far as I know, Tesla is in the same boat as all EV makers, and in fact its stock is dropping today by 12 points (6%) on weaker demand.
Wait a minute...you're calling me a fanboy? Someone who actually justifies enjoying driving a Prius, a car about as exciting as Ambien?? Trying to clutch to articles claiming how green they are using pseudo science? That's extremely funny 🤣🤣

I'm guessing you don't understand market share. If this isn't market domination, I don't know what is:



https://cleantechnica.com/2024/01/14...-market-share/

The only automaker Tesla has to worry about is BYD, if they ever start selling cars in North America, they could pose a problem.

Tesla's stock price is more affected by Elon than Tesla's performance. I'm really not worried about it. It's grown 171 percent over 5 years, last year I was able cash out some and buy a Model Y.

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Knock off the personal comments please, or do not post.
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I think this is what you should be more worried about:

Report shows Tesla is getting new customers from a surprising source: ‘I’m not buying a piece of crap because of brand loyalty’


"The number of Toyota drivers who switched to Teslas doubled in the last year, according to Inside EVs. Tesla has the highest rate of brand loyalty, followed by Chevrolet, Subaru, Nissan, Kia, and Hyundai"

https://autos.yahoo.com/report-shows...0and%20Hyundai.


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