Tesla Business and News Thread
#2161
Gates is not a person to be admired quite the opposite. He's taken on the role of being an expert in things we can't talk about here but he is no expert in those fields. His agenda now is well I can't say but you know what I'm talking about. And people somehow forget or don't know how viciously he tried to destroy any competition.
He's given away around $50 billion to this end, and recently said he would give away most of the $108 billion he has left.
Last edited by asj2024; 04-21-24 at 12:43 AM.
#2162
The way this is going, Tesla won't need a $25k econobox car
NBC: Tesla cuts U.S. prices on its Model Y, S and X vehicles after a difficult week
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...eek-rcna148693
The Y is now around the price of a Prius Prime XSE if you add in the tax creds, and cheaper than the premium.
NBC: Tesla cuts U.S. prices on its Model Y, S and X vehicles after a difficult week
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...eek-rcna148693
The Y is now around the price of a Prius Prime XSE if you add in the tax creds, and cheaper than the premium.
Last edited by asj2024; 04-21-24 at 05:11 AM.
#2164
#2165
Lexus Fanatic
This is the whole point of Teslas dynamic pricing guys…this is why they are so hard for a legacy carmaker to compete with.
#2166
Many Toyota cars are going for around MSRP or above and are still selling very well, thank you very much.
ps. I just talked to gen 5 Prius owner, and according to her, the Prime at the lot was at the $50k price point out the door, at least here in Central FL
Last edited by asj2024; 04-21-24 at 06:12 AM.
#2167
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
i think tesla has screwed themselves in several ways:
- model 3: by bringing out the nicely refreshed 3 first because now anyone looking at that but wanting a Y won't want the Y until it's refreshed too
- trade-ins: given how reliable teslas are, i don't see people trading them in much unless there's a compelling reason (new 3 is a nice upgrade if one has a 3 today)
- buyer resistance: finding new buyers is probably becomng harder, as the mainstream 'consensus' is that hybrids are a more 'sensible' / 'safer' choice and the majority of car buyers can't charge at home or aren't satisfied with the range and charging speed / availability offered
- plain/aging design: competitor's cars are getting nicer and more stylish in and out while the model y retains it's "pretty as the inside of a cereal box" interior and funky exterior.
- musk: musk is clearly viewed very negatively by many people.
- if they can continue to ramp cybertruck, that will bring in a lot of revenue and there's obviously demand there as it's a unique and new offering
- if consensus on fsd at some point is that it's reliable and useful, it could be a game changer for commuters who can then scroll tiktok instead lol
- opening the supercharger network to other brands may bring more profit but could bring resentment among tesla owners who arrive at 'their' charger network to see it full of fords, hyundais, rivians, etc., lol
- much more public charging spots
- much more charging spots at apartment/condo places
- more range
- faster charging
Last edited by bitkahuna; 04-21-24 at 06:14 AM.
#2168
Lexus Fanatic
hahahaha...not to be insulting...but I'll need to add a lol to that.
Many Toyota cars are going for around MSRP or above and are still selling very well, thank you very much.
ps. I just talked to gen 5 Prius owner, and according to her, the Prime at the lot was at the $50k price point out the door, at least here in Central FL
Many Toyota cars are going for around MSRP or above and are still selling very well, thank you very much.
ps. I just talked to gen 5 Prius owner, and according to her, the Prime at the lot was at the $50k price point out the door, at least here in Central FL
They sell way more Model 3 and Y Teslas than Priuses especially the Prime, it’s a totally different market, volume driven…
I would suggest asking all the Model 3 and Y owners here if they considered a Prius (I will save you time, they didn’t)
Last edited by SW17LS; 04-21-24 at 06:33 AM.
#2169
Forum Administrator
iTrader: (2)
folks this is a Tesla business thread not a Toyota pricing / vs Toyota thread. Keep on topic
#2171
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
I’d also add that opening up SCs to other manufacturers is great for the EV market but bad for Tesla. As good as other EVs are, EA and other charging stations don’t have the scope or reliability of SCs and when that advantage is gone, other EVs become much more desirable
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#2173
Super Moderator
#2174
The way this is going, Tesla won't need a $25k econobox car
NBC: Tesla cuts U.S. prices on its Model Y, S and X vehicles after a difficult week
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...eek-rcna148693
The Y is now around the price of a Prius Prime XSE if you add in the tax creds, and cheaper than the premium.
NBC: Tesla cuts U.S. prices on its Model Y, S and X vehicles after a difficult week
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bus...eek-rcna148693
The Y is now around the price of a Prius Prime XSE if you add in the tax creds, and cheaper than the premium.
#2175