Tesla Business and News Thread
05-26-24, 02:45 PM
#2851
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Again, it’s pretty easy to understand that they are promoting skewed statistics simply for marketing purposes. That to me is intentionally misleading and unethical.
And using those statistics to promote Tesla or EV safety relative to ICE vehicles are just as guilty of being misleading as those who post FUD about fires. Both groups are working with bad data and tilting at windmills.
If Tesla wants to be taken seriously (by me at least), they should change their methods/approach and prove they are really safer compared to newer vehicles. Not 12+ year old ones.
We clearly won’t agree on this, let’s move on.
And using those statistics to promote Tesla or EV safety relative to ICE vehicles are just as guilty of being misleading as those who post FUD about fires. Both groups are working with bad data and tilting at windmills.
If Tesla wants to be taken seriously (by me at least), they should change their methods/approach and prove they are really safer compared to newer vehicles. Not 12+ year old ones.
We clearly won’t agree on this, let’s move on.
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05-26-24, 02:58 PM
#2852
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I will, but you have to understand that Tesla wasn't reaching its conclusion by comparing fires per Tesla against fires per 12-year old vehicle, it was fires per miles driven in a Tesla vs fires per miles driven by every other car on the road, and that if you were to look to place any weight on the average vehicle ages, then that number is significantly less relevant than the median age of the population.
05-27-24, 06:23 AM
#2854
I will, but you have to understand that Tesla wasn't reaching its conclusion by comparing fires per Tesla against fires per 12-year old vehicle, it was fires per miles driven in a Tesla vs fires per miles driven by every other car on the road, and that if you were to look to place any weight on the average vehicle ages, then that number is significantly less relevant than the median age of the population.
05-28-24, 10:42 AM
#2855
Lexus Fanatic
05-28-24, 01:08 PM
#2856
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05-28-24, 01:26 PM
#2858
Lexus Test Driver
05-28-24, 02:34 PM
#2861
Lexus Fanatic
05-28-24, 02:45 PM
#2862
I will, but you have to understand that Tesla wasn't reaching its conclusion by comparing fires per Tesla against fires per 12-year old vehicle, it was fires per miles driven in a Tesla vs fires per miles driven by every other car on the road, and that if you were to look to place any weight on the average vehicle ages, then that number is significantly less relevant than the median age of the population.
05-28-24, 06:45 PM
#2863
Been happening for decades. Constant recalls over fires. The cruise control issue burned down a house in my neighborhood. At least, that was the story told around the neighborhood. Other stories online about it. Ford has actually told owners in some cases to park outside.
Last edited by Bob04; 05-28-24 at 06:59 PM.
05-28-24, 08:45 PM
#2864
Lexus Fanatic
Im a pretty well read car enthusiast who has owned a lot of Fords, and that’s not a common knowledge thing at all, at least not within the last 25 years.
05-29-24, 05:50 AM
#2865
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Not their fault but Tesla has to cripple acceleration in many places in the world through software to allow consumers to avoid taxes. 
and Turkey adds ** 80% ** tax on ice vehicles
part of article:
rest here
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-....841788.0.html
and Turkey adds ** 80% ** tax on ice vehicles
part of article:
The so-called "soft performance limit" flag has the Model 3 at 110 kW power output and the Model Y at 159 kW, returning 0-62 mph accelerations of 8.5 seconds and 7.5 seconds, respectively. This is a huge power output drop for the Model 3 RWD, and a far cry from its 6.1 seconds acceleration number.
The practice, however, has allowed Tesla to slide its bestselling vehicles under government mandated tax brackets that apply to more powerful vehicles across the globe.
In Turkey, for example, the 159 kW Model Y RWD has let Tesla offer a price up to 50% lower compared to its peak tag if it would've slotted in the tax bracket for cars with 160 kW and above power output. Turkey's "special consumption tax" slaps at least 80% over all ICE cars.
The practice, however, has allowed Tesla to slide its bestselling vehicles under government mandated tax brackets that apply to more powerful vehicles across the globe.
In Turkey, for example, the 159 kW Model Y RWD has let Tesla offer a price up to 50% lower compared to its peak tag if it would've slotted in the tax bracket for cars with 160 kW and above power output. Turkey's "special consumption tax" slaps at least 80% over all ICE cars.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-....841788.0.html
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