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#407
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#409
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#410
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That Optimus video is pretty misleading IMO. It's sped up, it appears to be manipulated (look at how some of the blocks move, particularly the blue blocks to its right at approx 40 seconds), and much like Boston Dynamics the actual control here is likely offline by a person. Reminds me of the early FSD videos...
#411
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In summary video is a fake #TSLAQ
#412
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Consciousness is only simulated with ai but if it ever starts thinking for it's own, scary... lol
That will come first.
Either way... 🧭
Sorry, Tesla Business!
#413
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I get the joke but at the same time even the dumbest human is capable of complex tasks. We think they are simple but in reality it takes billions of neurons, chemical reactions and 500 other things.
What is a simulation vs a person? Is there a difference? We generally think of ourselves as being a higher life form and certainly above artificial intelligence. I think that's going to turn out to be quite egotistical.
That's why it's important to teach AI to respect humanity as a whole and not be controlled by a small group of people. Which for example OpenAI is, it went from being open source to closed and corporate controlled.
Tesla is an AI company.
Consciousness is only simulated with ai but if it ever starts thinking for it's own, scary... lol
Or the people who own and control the Ai to decide we're not needed.
Sorry, Tesla Business!
#414
Basically AI follows the rules. Humans do not.
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#415
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What's cool about FSD is it learns from humans but replicates only good drivers, at least that's the end goal. I find this amazing but also scary in a big picture way.
#416
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Returned from my trip today, Did a total of 973 miles. Most of those miles were freeway miles averaging speeds of 80 MPH. Last trip I averaged around 27 kWh per 100 miles, this trip I averaged around 28 kWh per 100 miles:
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I guess I was being a bit of lead foot . We did a lot of driving while in SoCal, so I hit the super chargers a total of 7 times (twice coming, three times while in town, and twice heading home). Since I mostly hit 250 kW chargers, I spent an average of 13 minutes per session. The longest session was 20 minutes in Kettleman city where only a 150 kW charger was available and being at almost full capacity, that session was throttled a bit. In case anyone is interested, this is what I spent on Tesla chargers over the 973 miles I drove:
Gas prices in SoCal are just totally insane, had I taken my Sienna, it would have been about 3 fill-ups of about $86 a fillup. The cheapest gas I saw was like $5.79 for Regular LoL . Where my brother lives, a lot of the young folks drive Challengers and Mustang GT's...I have no idea how they afford to fill up. Must have rich parents. Another story for another time.
Last, I just want to post a pic of my favorite Tesla Supercharger stop, in Firebaugh, California:
Every single last one of these is a 250 kW Fast charger! So we don't have to fight over them
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I guess I was being a bit of lead foot . We did a lot of driving while in SoCal, so I hit the super chargers a total of 7 times (twice coming, three times while in town, and twice heading home). Since I mostly hit 250 kW chargers, I spent an average of 13 minutes per session. The longest session was 20 minutes in Kettleman city where only a 150 kW charger was available and being at almost full capacity, that session was throttled a bit. In case anyone is interested, this is what I spent on Tesla chargers over the 973 miles I drove:
Gas prices in SoCal are just totally insane, had I taken my Sienna, it would have been about 3 fill-ups of about $86 a fillup. The cheapest gas I saw was like $5.79 for Regular LoL . Where my brother lives, a lot of the young folks drive Challengers and Mustang GT's...I have no idea how they afford to fill up. Must have rich parents. Another story for another time.
Last, I just want to post a pic of my favorite Tesla Supercharger stop, in Firebaugh, California:
Every single last one of these is a 250 kW Fast charger! So we don't have to fight over them
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#417
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I can only dream of a charging location like that! Your consumption is almost exactly like my car at the same speed. Of note, elevation here is 3600 feet gas cars really feel it. I guess the reduced wind resistance is not significant.
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#418
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BTW sorry guys, I accidentally posted the above in the wrong thread
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I hit the super chargers a total of 7 times (twice coming, three times while in town, and twice heading home). Since I mostly hit 250 kW chargers, I spent an average of 13 minutes per session.
you said the sienna would have been 3 fill-ups of say 5 minutes each or 15 minutes total, for $258. certainly a huge difference in cost but also a huge time savings. 7 supercharger visits to me is annoying.
Every single last one of these is a 250 kW Fast charger! So we don't have to fight over them
why was one of your charging stops only $3.96?
thanks for sharing!
#420
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doesn't care if it runs over someone.
i still struggle a bit with these 'consumption' rates because they're shown in kWh AND Wh/mi ... you said 28 kWh per 100mi. so in my brain i figure you have a 74kW battery maybe? so max range is 74/28*100 or 264mi. sound about right?
so you spent 7x13 minutes charging, or an hour and a half. you spent $97.
you said the sienna would have been 3 fill-ups of say 5 minutes each or 15 minutes total, for $258. certainly a huge difference in cost but also a huge time savings. 7 supercharger visits to me is annoying.
right but when busy they won't be charging at 250kW plus the cars dramatically slow down the power as they 'fill up'.
why was one of your charging stops only $3.96?
thanks for sharing!
i still struggle a bit with these 'consumption' rates because they're shown in kWh AND Wh/mi ... you said 28 kWh per 100mi. so in my brain i figure you have a 74kW battery maybe? so max range is 74/28*100 or 264mi. sound about right?
so you spent 7x13 minutes charging, or an hour and a half. you spent $97.
you said the sienna would have been 3 fill-ups of say 5 minutes each or 15 minutes total, for $258. certainly a huge difference in cost but also a huge time savings. 7 supercharger visits to me is annoying.
right but when busy they won't be charging at 250kW plus the cars dramatically slow down the power as they 'fill up'.
why was one of your charging stops only $3.96?
thanks for sharing!
kWh used / Miles travelled = kWh per mile (277 kWh/973 = 0.284)
Next, multiple by 100 (0.28 X 100) and you have 28 kWh used every 100 miles. Also keep in mind, some of the 77.4 kWh of the battery is kept in reserve.
As far as the 7 times charging, four of them were while travelling to and from our destination. Technically we only charged two times while in SoCal, the last $3 charge was just my daughter "topping" off while she picked up something from Starbucks. She really didn't need to do that. For me, none of the charging was inconvenient at all
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 09-26-23 at 01:13 PM. Reason: Mixed up the battery pack with the Ioniq 5's