AMIRZA786

You mean him telling advertisers to f off, (than looking at the audience for approval), and blaming them if X fails didn't make you cringe? I can't talk about the other stuff here, but I guess we saw two different interviews. He's basically trying to fix something he broke by breaking more stuff and pretending it was by design. Just my take

swajames

I thought Musk did better than usual with the Cybertruck unveil today, albeit still not great because he’s a terrible public speaker, but the Sorkin interview was an absolute train wreck. How anyone even remotely sane could think otherwise escapes me.

This article sums things up pretty well.

https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/ar...w-18524602.php

AMIRZA786

A train wreck is being kind. I don't know what to say, I can't unsee that interview, I wish I never saw it

bitkahuna

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it's viewed as an absolute train wreck by those who hate him or his views anyway. to those who like him it's viewed as "thank goodness someone is saying these things".

as for that sfgate screed... i'm sure drew magary is very successful. oh wait...

and i'm sure you agree with this part of that garbage article:

pure envy rage. trashing those who dare to accomplish hard things.

highlighted part at on that site made my chuckle:



wouldn't wish this on anyone but might explain his anger... (from description of his memoir book):

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

this part of the musk interview is so on point.

white house doesn't invite tesla to a summit on electric vehicles?

patgilm

I agree, I didn't cringe at all and I was laughing because no one has the ***** to say what he says although he does strike me as very awkward. As a shareholder I would probably have other thoughts but as a non-shareholder I actually like the honesty and like that he isn't going to be bullied into doing something he doesn't believe in just to make a buck.

Everyone is trying to take him down by whatever means necessary and some of it is borderline fraudulent which is kind of sad but that is the way the world is now. If you don't like someone, dig stuff up or make something up and try to take someone down.

swajames

no, I don’t agree with some of that part of the article, he’s wrong on CyberTruck but mostly right about the Boring Company, but I do agree with much of the rest of it. Him being wrong or susceptible to hyperbole in parts doesn’t invalidate the entire article.

more to the point, the majority of coverage of the Sorkin interview reaches the same broad conclusion. It was an unhinged train wreck for the most part. This was but one example.

AMIRZA786

There was absolutely no honesty in that interview. He put himself in the position where he had no choice but to play victim to his self inflicted wounds. Elon originally took some very bold stands (which he probably should not have, he should have known there would be backlash), than he folded when he was pressured by some groups and at the loss of very important advertisers, I can't really talk about that here. He essentially turned himself from Elon to what I would call Elon 2, and although he claimed he wasn't doing an "apology tour", that's exactly what he was doing. If you go on X, you will see the criticism he's been getting...from his own followers. He sold out his principles, the audience knew it, his followers know it, and the "Never Elon" crowd are relishing in it right now.

As a TSLA investor, I can tell you I'm not happy, the dude single handedly tanked the stock

LeX2K

You need to get out of TSLA for good wait until a reasonably green day and sell everything. You are extremely negative on Elon there is no reason to own the stock anymore why put yourself through the emotional stress? It is very clear you strongly believe Elon the person is massive negative and will overshadow any fundamentals Tesla has. Buy into another company that doesn't have an "Elon" to mess everything up.

On the stock tanking, what about other EV players like Rivian and Lucid what do you feel is responsible for their stock performance in the last couple of years?

AMIRZA786

I don't own Rivian or Lucid. Welcome back bro, I missed you I was one click away from filing a missing persons report!

LeX2K

I'm spending much more time in my echo chamber on X.

Also SELL all your TSLA you'll be much happier. Wait for some red days and buy into something like NVDA.

AMIRZA786

LoL I don't know if you are mad at me or just being facetious, but I'll take in the chin like a man

No, gonna hold on to my TSLA for now and complain every now and then

LeX2K

I'm being 100% serious, I don't know why you would hold TSLA given your disdain for Elon. No need to sugar coat it.
But why? Your own words he tanked the stock how do you know he won't tank it even worse at some point? I'd say there is a high probability he will end up embroiled in another viral storm the man says what he really believes no filter.

AMIRZA786

Because I'm not selling. I've been holding since 2020, I'll keep holding, even if Elon has diarrhea of the mouth

LeX2K

I won't let this go, tell me why you're not selling.

From my perspective the negativity cycle is a short term buying opportunity. There was a bunch of negativity recently (don't remember exactly what it was) I bought a bunch at $197.97 and sold at $248. Waiting for the next sky is falling opportunity. Great thing is I'm buying a stock I hold long term anyway so if I don't buy/sell on the curve doesn't matter I have more of the stock I like. Not financial advice talk to a financial expert don't listen to me.
He told advertisers to go love themselves tenderly if they think he can be bribed. He didn't carte blanche tell them all to F off.