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Old 01-11-24, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
For me its not the number of speakers (although imo it still matters). A car audio system without a sub for low range just makes the audio sound flat, no depth. Though for your use case it makes sense.
Yes sir, totally flat especially on songs that have deep bass.

If I was jamming I would want a sub woofer.

What would be cool is if Tesla has the wiring harness already installed and customers could plug and play Tesla components like more speakers and a sub and upgraded amp if someone wants to add it later.
Old 01-11-24, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Yes sir, totally flat especially on songs that have deep bass.

If I was jamming I would want a sub woofer.

What would be cool is if Tesla has the wiring harness already installed and customers could plug and play Tesla components like more speakers and a sub and upgraded amp if someone wants to add it later.
funny you mentioned that. I am not sure which model and year (either 3 or Y), came with all the speakers as the highest end model but not the harness. Owners found the harness from China for $10 and was able to get the premium audio lol.
Old 01-11-24, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chuuck1e
Toyota sold 169k Highlanders in 2023, plus 48k Grand Highlanders. Sq6{#jHx

https://s3.amazonaws.com/toyota-cms-...hart-FINAL.pdf
Thanks for the correction!
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Plus some people don't care about sound systems in cars so they could get the car for a cheaper price now.
Plus, it's in their RWD model, which is their lowest end Y
Old 01-11-24, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
Link you posted is for the grand Highlander, which didn't have sales until July and that source has August sales missing.

It will be interesting to see if the R1S sales increase next year and by how much (if Rivian can meet demand). Any idea which high-end (75k+) 3 row has the most sales?

Off topic but I don't see how the regular Highlander survives with it being so close in price to the grand Highlander.
Thanks, I got the updated numbers. Thank you for pointing that out
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So finally updated my Model y to the most up to date software including the autopilot (not full self driving) updates from NHTSA. IMO, makes autopilot a pretty poor user experience. Before, you could look at the main screen to find songs, change settings, etc for at least 20 seconds before the eye/head tracker alerts you to keep your eyes on the road. Now, even a slight turn of the head to look at your own speed will cause the system to alarm, gives you maybe 5 seconds max. Your eyes have to be looking straight with little to no movement. It also makes you put your hands on the wheel much much earlier than before. To me, this is really unfair to Tesla, seeing as how my Mercedes distronic self drive will allow me to keep my hands off for past a minute at times if the conditions are right, with no eye tracking.
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Originally Posted by RXSF
So finally updated my Model y to the most up to date software including the autopilot (not full self driving) updates from NHTSA. IMO, makes autopilot a pretty poor user experience. Before, you could look at the main screen to find songs, change settings, etc for at least 20 seconds before the eye/head tracker alerts you to keep your eyes on the road. Now, even a slight turn of the head to look at your own speed will cause the system to alarm, gives you maybe 5 seconds max. Your eyes have to be looking straight with little to no movement. It also makes you put your hands on the wheel much much earlier than before. To me, this is really unfair to Tesla, seeing as how my Mercedes distronic self drive will allow me to keep my hands off for past a minute at times if the conditions are right, with no eye tracking.
I haven't had that experience at all, maybe you have Autosteer also enabled? I keep autosteer disabled
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Originally Posted by RXSF
So finally updated my Model y to the most up to date software including the autopilot (not full self driving) updates from NHTSA. IMO, makes autopilot a pretty poor user experience. Before, you could look at the main screen to find songs, change settings, etc for at least 20 seconds before the eye/head tracker alerts you to keep your eyes on the road. Now, even a slight turn of the head to look at your own speed will cause the system to alarm, gives you maybe 5 seconds max. Your eyes have to be looking straight with little to no movement. It also makes you put your hands on the wheel much much earlier than before. To me, this is really unfair to Tesla, seeing as how my Mercedes distronic self drive will allow me to keep my hands off for past a minute at times if the conditions are right, with no eye tracking.
Call me old fashioned, but I think it is a good idea to not take your eyes off the road for even 5 seconds while driving.
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Originally Posted by chuuck1e
Call me old fashioned, but I think it is a good idea to not take your eyes off the road for even 5 seconds while driving.
yes I realize my opinion is probably not popular opinion but I’ve had some kind of self driving assistance in my car since 2016 and I feel pretty comfortable with the system. It’s not like the Toyota ones which are more lane keeping assistance bouncing from one side of the line to the other. The Mercedes and Tesla actually do well on straights and gentle curves and will slow down for larger curves. I’m not suggesting people play on their phones or nap, but I should be able to find a navigation address or choose a good radio station while these systems are active
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I haven't had that experience at all, maybe you have Autosteer also enabled? I keep autosteer disabled
You take your eyes off the road for over 30 seconds with just TACC?
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Originally Posted by Mike728
You take your eyes off the road for over 30 seconds with just TACC?
Lol of course not. But I've glanced over to the side for more than 5 seconds making sure I still have a peripheral view of the road
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Originally Posted by Margate330
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Tesla is forced to do a "recall" which effectively makes their cars less safe. Meanwhile cars that have no monitoring tech at all are completely ignored. It's almost like this is all on purpose.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Tesla is forced to do a "recall" which effectively makes their cars less safe. Meanwhile cars that have no monitoring tech at all are completely ignored. It's almost like this is all on purpose.
I wouldn't say it makes the car less safe. It forces you to keep your eyes on the road, and seems to have fixed phantom braking, which is completely unsafe


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