Or play classical music really loud thugs can't deal with that.

 

it's great news that european bureaucrats are trying to decide what physical controls cars should have?

why not let the market decide?

 

My exact sentiments. Having screens or buttons has nothing to with safety. Let people decide with their pocket books

 

Is this the kind of safe interface regulators are looking for?

 

Electric vehicles release more toxic emissions, are worse for the environment than gas-powered cars: study

https://nypost.com/2024/03/05/busine...ronment-study/

apparently tires are the biggest issue!

 

ICE vehicles are quite heavy nowadays too, so the same applies to them. Tailpipe particulate emissions are fine on anything with a particulate filter (i.e. diesels) or with a sane combustion strategy (petrols that don't try to be a diesel by injecting just before spark). NOx/CO/VOCs are another story.

As for the tires - from what little I've read, the biggest offenders re: toxicity and wear are on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Wouldn't be too concerned if you're used to looking for the best tires available. Would be concerned if you like SUVs or other unnecessarily heavy vehicles, as this might finally get them regulated in some way.

How can the market respond when generally everything is *****?

 

so regulate the compounds used in tires? maybe so.

not sure what ***** was lol but if people don't want to buy cars with few physical controls, then car makers will have to add them? bureaucrats deciding which buttons, stalks, levers, *****, etc. are 'must haves' sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

thankfully, this euro ncap is not a regulatory body, they just do tests, and are puffing their self-importance by blathering about controls now.

i'm sure what's coming next is regulations on how fast cars can accelerate, top speed limits, etc.

 

it is just mostly FUD. Any heavy car will use more brakes and tires. Problem is that again reality, with electric braking and Teslas actually being average weight, it does not conform to reality.

 

Just got our auto insurance renewal docs from Allstate and for the 3 cars we're at about $1,250 for 6 months. My wife's Model 3 LR is the highest at $500. She has had 2 claims but neither was her fault - one was when the car was hit while parked at the gym, the other was someone slow rolled into it at a stop sign. I'm tempted to ask them to look at it but my Rivian insurance is so cheap ($335) I don't want them to look too closely at our account haha

 

Here's my State Farm renewal:

2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5: $1906.12
2023 Chevy Bolt EUV: $883.37
2013 Sienna: $1349.48
2022 Polestar 2: $1414.05

Total= $5,553.02

My 2023 Model Y is insured through Tesla Insurance, $1,100, making it a grand total of $6,653

I don't know what crack State Farm is smoking. I have a quote for $3,800 (somewhere around this range) from Geico, same coverage, deductibles. The issue now with insurance companies here is that they now put you through a 15 day waiting period, even though I have an excellent driving record and I was a previous Geico customer. I think many companies are purposely trying to get people to drop them, otherwise why would you make it so hard to get coverage, and raise rates this high?

 

Jeez, is that 6 months or a year? I was with State Farm for the better part of 12 years before quoting out to a bunch of companies. Allstate came through with a 50% rate cut from what SF was offering for the cars, home, and umbrella.

 

There is no one year on Auto, so yeah, that's a 6 month policy. That's freaking insanity. Here's the explanation from my agent:

"Auto insurance rates are rising nationwide due to several factors, including the increase in car values, labor costs, and the cost of auto parts.It's important to note that these factors are not exclusive to any particular region but have a nationwide impact. Insurance companies consider various factors when setting rates, including the make and model of the vehicle, the driver's history, location, and other risk factors. However, the increase in car values, labor costs, and the cost of auto parts are contributing factors that have led to the overall rise in auto insurance rates across the country"

I asked him what about my rising costs, no answer back on that front

 

Just talked to my brother and he's at $2,400 for 4 cars via Costco down in Irvine. That's for a 2022 Y performance, 2019 3LR, my old 15 GS350 for my dad, and a 2020 CLA.

 

That is INSANE! I'm guessing State Farm wants out of CA. I've been with them over 40 years and have no need to shop around, but I'm in their home state. Not sure if that matters, but we don't have fire of hurricane risks in the Midwest.

 

I think Costco stopped doing Auto insurance for new customers. I'll check again