AMIRZA786

Model 3 vs Model 3

Throttle House compares a 2018 to the new Highland. We all already know what their biggest complaint is

SW17LS

Man “boomers” are looking younger and younger lol

AJT123

Blazer EV was Motor Trend's SUV of the year! It's back and cheaper. Still won't meet sales projections lol.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/2024-c...3Z3XZSw3t3W6tM

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

Woof that 2018 was beat to crap. My wife's 2018 LR AWD is in great condition. Tomb quiet and all the parts are still attached where they should be

AMIRZA786

That's actually not bad for a 2018. Probably got it from Turo, looks like they are filming in SoCal, so that car was abused

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

The way the pillar trim piece hung, I'd say beat to crap Exterior didn't look too bad minus the camera shroud being loose.

Also, Taycan Turbo GT on the way

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/03...ehicle-lineup/

Mike728

My wife and I are taking a trip (driving) to TX next month, and looked into taking the Tesla. If it wasn't for us bringing our dog, we would just fly. It only took a minute to figure out we're not ready to do that. It would take 6 hours longer to get there, according to Tesla navigation. I assume that's even a bit optimistic. This is why I still have my '21 Ranger with only 7k miles on it. I totally understand why people say they're not ready to go all-in on BEV.

Has anyone on here here taken a trip greater than 1k miles in a BEV? I'm curious how it went.

asj2024

This is one reason why we went with a PHEV instead of all electric. Too much trouble at this time, and now that I've had a taste of this car I may never go BEV if we stick with only one car. If ever the grid goes down or the Zombies come I wanna make sure I can still ride lol

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2024 RX 450h+ (PHEV)
2010 Prius (HEV)

AMIRZA786

Yep, I did almost 2k in one trip last summer over 4 or 5 days. But we also have Tesla superchargers everywhere. I would be reluctant to do more than 400 mile trip in either the Polestar or Ioniq though. Anywhere over 400 or 500 miles, I would fly, ICE or EV

AMIRZA786

Please keep telling us BEV owners how great your hybrids are and how bad BEV's are. One more time, you've only said it 10 times. 11 is a charm

Mike728

I would never buy a PHEV, or HEV. IMO, you get the worst of both worlds. The required ICE maintenance and EV battery concerns. The Model Y's typical commutes are low mileage, so the tank of gas would just be going along for the ride on a PHEV. My concern then would be bad gas after awhile. If we only wanted 1 vehicle, I probably wouldn't have bought the Y, but I'm glad I did. It's the most fun vehicle to drive of any I've owned. I just don't think I want to spend 6 hours charging it each way on this trip.

asj2024

In my mind, if you drive low mileage most days but do have long trips sporadically, the PHEV is best. You won't be dragging along a HUGE battery every day, and you have absolutely no worries about charge when you do need to take long trips. I believe the gas is pressurized too, which means it lasts a long time in there (I also aim to keep the volume low until we need it)

In terms of reliability of having the two systems in one car, it all depends on who makes the car rather than the type of car. Toyota PHEVs and especially HEVs have historically proven themselves to be tops no matter the type of car you compare them to.

As to the HEV, I've driven a Prius for 14 years now and it is absolutely the best thing. 50 mpg over those long years, no problems at all.

Hameed

How much of that 6 hours would be spent on coffee/food/washroom breaks?

Mike728

Our long trips are once a year, as we've been out searching for places to retire. Those are pretty much all of the miles we have on our ICE since we bought it. I bought it for towing, since it has a 7,500 lb capacity, but have yet to do that. I've driven hybrids and can't stand the way they drive. A PHEV is better for people that are not ready to jump in with both feet, which I get. I'm not a toe dipper.

I am still contemplating selling the truck and picking up a Model 3 Performance once they come out. At that point, I would have to weigh the option of renting something for really long trips, vs the added time needed to charge. It wouldn't be the end of the world either way.

Just curious, which BEV's have you driven and when? I never thought I would own one until it was the only option. Then I made the mistake of test driving the Tesla and now I have a hard time wanting to drive anything else.

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

Completely agree. I want to enjoy what I'm driving and 3ish second 0-60 and the ability to offroad competently is where I'm at right now