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The project to extract lithium has already started and the state hasn't objected. The state has, in fact, helped and supported the effort, and true to form, has already passed a lithium extraction tax.
The project to extract lithium has already started and the state hasn't objected. The state has, in fact, helped and supported the effort, and true to form, has already passed a lithium extraction tax.
Haha told you. Californian's have their price 🤣. Not allowing the extraction of one of the largest lithium finds would be sheer stupidity for a state with the largest amount of battery powered vehicles
Which also includes you and I who don't live anywhere near Pelican Bay 🤣🤣
In other circumstances, the additional tax revenue would have gone into the general fund. So indirectly everyone here is impacted to one extent or another. The bigger thing as it relates to the forum is it should help ensure future supply for EV batteries. Some reports suggest that there’s enough lithium in the Salton Sea to make batteries for 300 million EV’s. Studies are underway to validate that.
You mentioned twice about your Indian friend, are you trying to say Indians are smarter? If so, I'm half Indian, so thank you
You are again mentioning arguments that have been debunked or are outdated. Modern battery chemistry has been evolving at breakneck speeds, they can now fast charge, and provide long range. Where I will agree with you is non Tesla infrastructure is still lacking, and infrastructure in other parts of the country needs more attention for sure. But I've travelled numerous times in my Model Y with almost the same ease as my gas cars. I'm not advocating that you get an EV, but living where you do, owning an EV would be effortless.
So a couple of questions:
Should we abandoned EV's and stop advancing battery tech? And did Tesla waste time and resources building out there charging infrastructure?
Do you think oil is an unlimited resource, or is it finite? And do you think acquiring it has been bloodless? As I last remember, we spend billions of taxpayer dollars fighting wars and protecting oil in the Middle East
My Indian friends are Sikhs - they don't cut their hair and wear turbans to cover it.
No, Tesla have not wasted their time; indeed, Musk was the only one to see the potential of lithium ion powered EV's.
No, EV must not be abandoned, but EV's must continue to develop EV's, and find an alternative battery chemistry breakthrough.
Something that is more abundant.
With considerably less mining and pollution. Higher energy densities not only for longer range, but also for lower weight to reduce particulate matter pollution.
Much less battery degradation for longer life hence less mining pollution.
Faster charging.
This is the only way to convert niche early adopter to the mainstream market.
Remember the world's first digital camera in the US$15k Nikon D1 with only 2.8 megapixels and laughable these days?
Or the 2003 world's first mass produced dSLR in the Canon EOS 300D/Digital Rebel/Kiss Digital with only 6.3 megapixels.
Look at those tiny LCD displays above and below?
A Nikon D1 with only 2.7 megapixels? Even your phone can do better than that.
In the same way, in ten years time, you will laugh at the early adopter electric vehicles today...
My Indian friends are Sikhs - they don't cut their hair and wear turbans to cover it.
No, Tesla have not wasted their time; indeed, Musk was the only one to see the potential of lithium ion powered EV's.
No, EV must not be abandoned, but EV's must continue to develop EV's, and find an alternative battery chemistry breakthrough.
Something that is more abundant.
With considerably less mining and pollution. Higher energy densities not only for longer range, but also for lower weight to reduce particulate matter pollution.
Much less battery degradation for longer life hence less mining pollution.
Faster charging.
This is the only way to convert niche early adopter to the mainstream market.
Remember the world's first digital camera in the US$15k Nikon D1 with only 2.8 megapixels and laughable these days?
Or the 2003 world's first mass produced dSLR in the Canon EOS 300D/Digital Rebel/Kiss Digital with only 6.3 megapixels.
Look at those tiny LCD displays above and below?
A Nikon D1 with only 2.7 megapixels? Even your phone can do better than that.
In the same way, in ten years time, you will laugh at the early adopter electric vehicles today...
I think you and I pretty much agree here. Which is why two of my three EV'S are leased, because you are correct, the changes in 10 years will be significant 👍
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