LeX2K

Ridiculous, people should not be dinged for driving a clean vehicle.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

except what he posted isn't much about them being ev's.

LeX2K

Registration fees for EVs being much higher isn't about EVs? I must be missing some context.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

yes you are, the sienna ice vehicle he has is MUCH older and worth a whole lot less, making registration less.

LeX2K

Why would an older vehicle cost less to register?

SW17LS

Because thats how it works in many states. Registration fees are based on the vehicle's value.

LeX2K

I see. When I was in PA that wasn't the case, not for passenger vehicles. In Alberta all passenger cars have the same fee. I personally think we should get rid of all registration fees the administration costs alone probably eat up most of the cash coming in.

AMIRZA786

I shouldn't have posted the Sienna because of its age (and not being an EV), CA DMV fees are based on the value of the car which gets less as they age. So the Model Y, Polestar and Ioniq 5 would have higher DMV fees as they are newer, but there is a $175 as well as a $3 clean vehicle fee added to them, which is OK with me because I'm not paying gasoline tax, which is used for maintaining roads. Or so they say

AMIRZA786

So this is the DMV fees if these were ICE vehicles

Hyundai Ioniq 5: $731 $553
Tesla Model Y: $750 $572
Polestar: $706 $528

LeX2K

Those registration fees are obscene IMO. Ontario now has $0 registration fee for passenger cars.

SW17LS

You probably pay a lot more taxes overall though

AMIRZA786

He's right. I worked with a colleague who moved from Toronto and she told me that her income was taxed 60 percent. She loved everything about moving here except she told me our healthcare system sucks

LeX2K

I'm not in Ontario.

Grok gives an amazing answer
https://x.com/i/grok/share/JJfOx3VJ8ahw4gU8XfWBrbYMK

AMIRZA786

You guys pay less tax than I thought. To lower my taxes I have an LLC I use for consulting, otherwise I'll be paying out my nose

geko29

Would be FAR more helpful if it compared people with similar incomes. The Californian in its example makes 35% more than the Ontarioan (is that a word?) and pays about the same effective rate.

$80,000 USD = $108,132 CAD, but it used $80k for both.