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#886
My friend had a 209 one way trip today. His 2023 MYLR couldn’t make the trip without stopping to charge. The speed limit on the highway is 75mph. IMO, that’s not good at all. I would like to see REALISTIC numbers from Tesla.
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LexTess (01-05-24)
#887
Lexus Test Driver
As a general rule, I feel it is always better to under promise and over deliver.
At least that's how I do it.
Meeting and exceeding customer's expectations is what it's all about!
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LexTess (01-05-24)
#888
Lexus Champion
#889
Lexus Test Driver
Heck of a lot more wind at higher speeds and more work needs to be done.
#890
Lexus Champion
The other reasons could be the map planner. Due to distancing between chargers, it may be adding charging stops, not because his battery is depleted
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 01-04-24 at 09:42 PM.
#891
Lexus Champion
I already knew this ahead of time before I bought the car. Since I charge mostly at home and there are plenty of super chargers (which I only use on trips), it doesn't really effect me. Also I could get probably 300 miles out of it if I wasn't so hard on the throttle, but what's the fun in that
Tesla could probably fix the issue by releasing more battery from reserve, but that would also decrease battery pack life
#892
Lexus Champion
#893
To drive 390 miles, I used roughly 111kWh on my last trip. The battery pack is an 81kWh battery pack, Tesla makes 75 kWh available, the remaining is reserved. If you divide energy used, that's 0.28 kWh per mile or 28 kWh every 100 miles. That means I am getting roughly 260 miles on a 100 percent charge. There must be something else limiting your friends range, like mountain roads, or maybe he has 20" tires.
The other reasons could be the map planner. Due to distancing between chargers, it may be adding charging stops, not because his battery is depleted
The other reasons could be the map planner. Due to distancing between chargers, it may be adding charging stops, not because his battery is depleted
I’m looking at the Tesla planner right now from where he started to where he said he would be stopping to charge. Starting out at 80%, to travel 2hr 21 min (157 miles), it says he will need to stop and charge for 5 min 103 miles from where he started. But I guess he intended on skipping that 5 min charge and go the entire 157 miles to the 3rd supercharger stop. Then from there to his home is 53 miles. Total of 210 miles.
So he started out at 80%. 20% of 318 miles is 255 miles. So he should have 255 miles of range at 80% but can’t make the 210 mile trip without stopping to charge. If I owned a Tesla, I don’t think I would ever take it on a road trip.
Edit: he started out at 80% drove 157 miles to supercharger arrived with 12% remaining. Charged to 38% then drove the remaining 53 miles home. Arrived with 15% remaining.
Last edited by BayeauxLex; 01-05-24 at 07:20 AM.
#894
Lexus Champion
#895
Lexus Champion
No mountains. A few hills but all of them are maybe .1-.2 mile long max. He does have the 20 inch tires but still the car is rated for 318 miles I believe and he’s not able to get anywhere close to that on the highway.
I’m looking at the Tesla planner right now from where he started to where he said he would be stopping to charge. Starting out at 80%, to travel 2hr 21 min (157 miles), it says he will need to stop and charge for 5 min 103 miles from where he started. But I guess he intended on skipping that 5 min charge and go the entire 157 miles to the 3rd supercharger stop. Then from there to his home is 53 miles. Total of 210 miles.
So he started out at 80%. 20% of 318 miles is 255 miles. So he should have 255 miles of range at 80% but can’t make the 210 mile trip without stopping to charge. If I owned a Tesla, I don’t think I would ever take it on a road trip.
Edit: he started out at 80% drove 157 miles to supercharger arrived with 12% remaining. Charged to 38% then drove the remaining 53 miles home. Arrived with 15% remaining.
I’m looking at the Tesla planner right now from where he started to where he said he would be stopping to charge. Starting out at 80%, to travel 2hr 21 min (157 miles), it says he will need to stop and charge for 5 min 103 miles from where he started. But I guess he intended on skipping that 5 min charge and go the entire 157 miles to the 3rd supercharger stop. Then from there to his home is 53 miles. Total of 210 miles.
So he started out at 80%. 20% of 318 miles is 255 miles. So he should have 255 miles of range at 80% but can’t make the 210 mile trip without stopping to charge. If I owned a Tesla, I don’t think I would ever take it on a road trip.
Edit: he started out at 80% drove 157 miles to supercharger arrived with 12% remaining. Charged to 38% then drove the remaining 53 miles home. Arrived with 15% remaining.
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 01-05-24 at 08:38 AM.
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BayeauxLex (01-05-24)
#896
Lexus Champion
The faster you drive, the more range you lose. But that's the same with gasoline cars, you are fighting the wind. At 80 mph, on average I'm using 28 kWh per 100 miles. 33.7 kWh is one gallon of gasoline, so I'm still running very efficient, but not as efficient as I would be driving at 70 mph
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BayeauxLex (01-05-24)
#897
Lexus Fanatic
#898
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Updates to the testing method is why Tesla lowered estimates
https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_...d=55592&flag=1
New testing does seem to punish cars with air suspension. My R1S is measurably more efficient at low/lowest vs. the higher ride heights
https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_...d=55592&flag=1
The EPA now mandates all EV manufacturers that sell in the U.S. to test acceleration and ride height modes in both best and worst-case scenarios. Averaging these modes results in increased consumption and a slight reduction in overall range. These changes were made to better reflect real-world range performance.
#900
That's just a state of mind, or what I call, a self imposed roadblock . Tens of thousands of people here take Tesla's on road trips daily. Having to spend 5 or 10 minutes charging is just a small sacrifice. Unless I'm traveling somewhere where charging is sketchy or not available, it's a trip in my Tesla every time. My poor Sienna sees no action anymore, except serving as the dog car or if we have to go somewhere with more than 5 passengers
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