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Old 01-13-24, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames
If you were to rent a Tesla from Hertz here at least you only have to return the vehicle with the same charge you left with or you can return at any level for a $35 fee. Gas out here is $4.50 to $5 or so depending upon grade so the ICE equivalent of a prepaid tank of gas and return at any level would be way more expensive. Plus there are no shortage of superchargers if you wanted to charge up before return.

And count me as another who would be much more comfortable buying an ex-rental EV than an ex-rental ICE car.
So you're saying my rental Tesla may not be given to me fully charged? I want that even less now lol
Old 01-13-24, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So you're saying my rental Tesla may not be given to me fully charged? I want that even less now lol
Well rental cars are often supplied less than full, even premium rental companies. I'm top tier at a fair few of them.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I wouldn't do that (thats a pretty jerky thing to do IMO) but I'm sure most people who rent it do
Don't waste your money lol. The big rental agencies, some locations only have 87 or 89. Never seen any sites I've been that have premium.

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Old 01-13-24, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
Don't waste your money lol. The big rental agencies, some locations only have 87 or 89. Never seen any sites I've been that have premium.
I wouldn't bother either.

Especially now that I know rental agencies don't do it either.

Why should they, it's a rental.
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Originally Posted by swajames
Well rental cars are often supplied less than full, even premium rental companies. I'm top tier at a fair few of them.
Almost every rental car I have rented has a full tank of gas, or at least close. I can also refuel an ICE rental car anywhere in 4 minutes I don’t have to find a charger somewhere and wait.

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Don't waste your money lol. The big rental agencies, some locations only have 87 or 89. Never seen any sites I've been that have premium.
I still would use the kind of gas it requires.
Old 01-13-24, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Almost every rental car I have rented has a full tank of gas, or at least close. I can also refuel an ICE rental car anywhere in 4 minutes I don’t have to find a charger somewhere and wait.



I still would use the kind of gas it requires.
That's cool but unless it's in the rental agreement I don't see how anyone has an obligation to do that. 🤔
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Old 01-13-24, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
That's cool but unless it's in the rental agreement I don't see how anyone has an obligation to do that. 🤔
I don’t need to be contractually obligated to treat property belonging to others properly
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Old 01-13-24, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don’t need to be contractually obligated to treat property belonging to others properly
Thank you for your thoughts @SW17LS ,

I'll go ahead and start a new thread on this subject just for fun and make a poll on it.

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Such a hassle putting the fire out. I reckon the fire department should send the bill to the manufacturer.

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I watched that video too.

EVs are not the only things that create unusual fire hazards, the tools and methods used to fight fires have to evolve with the times.
Old 01-13-24, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 703
Such a hassle putting the fire out. I reckon the fire department should send the bill to the manufacturer.

https://youtu.be/itGeAq9rBeY?si=0AUV6_QUDn6rNoHo
I guess when someone installs an EVSE to charge electric vehicles in a garage, he would probably need to install:
  • Garage smoke detector
  • Garage EVSE disconnect switch (if electrical panel access would be inaccessible)
  • Garage monitoring camera with smartphone app
  • Garage fire extinguisher
  • A top rated home insurance
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Originally Posted by Aegean
I guess when someone installs an EVSE to charge electric vehicles in a garage, he would probably need to install:
  • Garage smoke detector
  • Garage EVSE disconnect switch (if electrical panel access would be inaccessible)
  • Garage monitoring camera with smartphone app
  • Garage fire extinguisher
  • A top rated home insurance
Would you like me to post all the stories of ICE cars catching fire in garages? This happens...
Old 01-13-24, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Actually I would buy a rental EV before I would buy a rental ICE. Wear and tear is less damaging.
Fair, but they say that one of the problems is the battery hardware gets scraped/hit/whatever because it's so low.

And nobody gives a crap about a rental car. Though I do miss that F-150 haha.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Fair, but they say that one of the problems is the battery hardware gets scraped/hit/whatever because it's so low.

And nobody gives a crap about a rental car. Though I do miss that F-150 haha.
The battery is well protected...
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I watched that video too.

EVs are not the only things that create unusual fire hazards, the tools and methods used to fight fires have to evolve with the times.
if there are more houses going up in flames, then regulators are going to push for more stringent design standards on battery management systems and batteries.

There will be a point where emergency services will not be able to deal with these fires when EV adoption reach a certain threshold and if battery design and if manufacturing quality / QA doesn’t improve.





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