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Old 01-14-24, 02:29 PM
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it's a joke folks

I'm highly, highly offended 🤣
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Old 01-14-24, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
I don't that car is a death machine on wheels it consistently has some of the highest if not the highest death rates of any vehicle. If you can't make a car fast and at least reasonably safe you're engineering is a total failure.
You don't think idiots driving them has something to do with that?
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Old 01-14-24, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Sorry. I thought you were trying to expand and say there was nothing that would beat it for that price, not just family cars.
No, I wasn't trying to say that. Plenty of cars out there that are better performers and will eat my lunch. I was trying to answer a question that there are no cars that are in the fuel efficient category that matches it's performance. No need for apologies
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Old 01-14-24, 02:37 PM
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That AI image makes no sense it's supposed to be Lego but....well never mind I chuckled.
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You don't think idiots driving them has something to do with that?
Are Corvette owners inherently idiots vs. people that buy other brand of sports cars?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it's a joke folks

I'm fully <Triggered>. Haha
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
That AI image makes no sense it's supposed to be Lego but....well never mind I chuckled.


Are Corvette owners inherently idiots vs. people that buy other brand of sports cars?
Over here in the Bay area, C8 drivers I see are mostly an older demographic. Although one of our engineers who's probably in his mid 30's owns one. He brought it to flip it and got stuck with it. He occasionally brings it to the office. Take a guess what his daily driver is
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MG Midget that's my guess.
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Old 01-14-24, 03:17 PM
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MG Midget that's my guess.
Keep guessing 😉
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Over here in the Bay area, C8 drivers I see are mostly an older demographic. Although one of our engineers who's probably in his mid 30's owns one. He brought it to flip it and got stuck with it. He occasionally brings it to the office. Take a guess what his daily driver is
a car that’s slower than his C8
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

I paid under $50k for my 2022 base, dual motor and added a $1200 performance upgrade, which was purely software. The fact that people have to compare high end sports cars as comparisons is pretty telling to me. What about a Model 3 performance, which is under $70k? Or an Ioniq 5 N? How would those compare?

I have a ton of respect for cars like the C8, so don't think I'm putting them down. My point is, cheaper EV'S meet or exceed performance expectations. Their biggest weakness is range, and if they are not Tesla's, then charging infrastructure as well
I was going to mention BMW 240i and Cadillac CTS-V blackwing earlier. I think the BMW is around $50k but it’s a 2dr. I think the blackwing is $80k+
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I was going to mention BMW 240i and Cadillac CTS-V blackwing earlier. I think the BMW is around $50k but it’s a 2dr. I think the blackwing is $80k+
The Blackwing is definitely out, the M240i is a contender, but my Polestar easily outperform it. Also fuel and long term maint costs are way higher. That said, it's a nice car for sure
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
No, I wasn't trying to say that. Plenty of cars out there that are better performers and will eat my lunch. I was trying to answer a question that there are no cars that are in the fuel efficient category that matches it's performance. No need for apologies
But even including cars outside the family car segment, there's not a lot in ICE that is as quick for the money. EVs definitely bring the bang for the buck.
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There are $30,000 used Teslas that can beat any Corvette ever GM made. For example, a 2017 Tesla P100DL does 2.3 sec and sells around $30000 today.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/fastes...-60-mph-times/

However, ownership cost of such a car is one of the most expensive with high insurance rates, high deprecation and frequent /high cost repairs. It could end up being cheaper ownership cost to buy a $75,000 brand new 2024 corvette than a $30,000 used P100D Ludicrous.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Keep guessing 😉
In California, my best guess would be a Tesla.

Definitely not a MachE if he has a Vette, that whole Chevy vs Ford thing. Lol
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Originally Posted by Aegean
There are $30,000 used Teslas that can beat any Corvette ever GM made. For example, a 2017 Tesla P100DL does 2.3 sec and sells around $30000 today.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/fastes...-60-mph-times/

However, ownership cost of such a car is one of the most expensive with high insurance rates, high deprecation and frequent /high cost repairs. It could end up being cheaper ownership cost to buy a $75,000 brand new 2024 corvette than a $30,000 used P100D Ludicrous.
If you get it repaired at a Tesla Service center for sure. In California we have a number of independent Tesla repair shops that are more than half the price of Tesla service centers. I have a friend who bought a 2014 Model S and had the battery either replaced or repaired for around $7500 with full warranty. They repaired some other stuff like issues with the motors as well. He now has a brand new car, all the issues with batteries and motors repaired
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