swajames

That Mustart charger is going to work just fine, 25 amp is close enough to the 80% of capacity threshold. You should almost always be able to top up overnight.

Couple of other things to consider in addition, a 10-30 to 14-50 adapter comes in handy particularly with my second tip which is I think it's sensible to also consider a variable output charger at some point so you are covered for almost all bases. The ones I use most often will let you set the charge rate to 6/8/12/16/20/24/32/40 so you limit the risk of pulling too much current on an unfamiliar circuit that might not be up to the job.

bitkahuna

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thank you. saw those 10-30 to 14-50 adapters... so if i got a variable charger with 14-50 could i use it in the barn 10-30 outlet with an adapter? i was worried it might not be safe.
i can always return the mustart and get a variable which i could then use in my main garage when that's hooked up. thoughts?

thanks!

bitkahuna

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i also saw ref to 10p-30r adapters... i assume p means plug and r means receptacle?

swajames

Yes, you can. It will work fine with the 10-30 to 14-50 adapter. The main thing is you just need to not overload the circuit and in your case you will be fine with something charging at 25 amps on a 30 amp circuit. I do this myself sometimes, my chargers have 14-50 so I use an adapter to plug into a 10-30 outlet. These adapters aren't cheap by the way, they are heavy duty. I'm assuming you think your circuit and wiring are fine for all of this of course.

To your other questions you'll get as many recommendations as there are EV owners here, but my own view is that you should cover as many bases as you can, so a charger that can charge at both 110 and 240 and also be able to vary the rate helps. I also like to have a charger in the vehicle at all times. So I'd consider something with more flexibility in addition to the Mustart and that way you can leave one in the vehicle and have one ready to go at home.

With that 25 amp you're going to be able to go from completely empty to full overnight, and because you're rarely empty and rarely charging to 100% you really probably don't need anything more powerful, but sometimes a little extra charging speed never hurts. I never have to use my 80amp charger, I've rarely have the need, I get by just fine and generally charge mine at 30 or less as I'm usually just topping up to 80% or so for regular driving.

bitkahuna

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thanks again. about carrying a charger in the car... i don't really get that unless you know what your options are likely to be wherever you're going, unless you just carry level 1 (120v), maybe 14-50 and 10-30 and maybe 6-50 adapters or am i way overthinking this?

can you recommend an adapter and what charger(s) you're using?

you said the adapters aren't cheap, and maybe one like this ($30) isn't the right kind?
https://a.co/d/6tSAI9h

i am leery when it basically says convert a 30A 10-30 outlet into a 50A 14-50 because of course you can't do that unless the wiring and breaker support more current. with rule of thumb a 50A circuit breaker supports 32A charging, and a 60A supports 48A from what i've read.

swajames

Yes, that kind of adapter works just fine.

The point about the chargers is just to cover all bases. it's just like insurance. When you need it, you're glad you had it. You'll likely be fine with fast chargers, but if you're doing something like Steve was the other day you might be traveling somewhere with limited public charging but an available dryer outlet. That's where this stuff comes into its own.

The charger I keep in my truck is this one, it's not cheap but I got it for around $200 off current retail. It has both a 110v and a 14-50 plug, and I also carry a 10-30 to 14-50 adapter similar to the one you posted. The charger covers all bases, L1 and L2, and a lot of charge rate options.



This is my 80 amp charger - https://chargers.ford.com/ford-charge-station-pro

and yes, you're quite correct, the adapters just enable the connection. You don't magically turn 30 amps into 50..!

BayeauxLex

With 12kW up to 50A charging. But my PHEV only sees 30-33A max and 7.3kw when charging. I basically got it future proof in the event I move on to BEV.

swajames

One more thing, Bit, also consider a Tesla adapter. You can't use superchargers for now, not until next year and with a specific adapter, but there are lots of Tesla destination chargers you can use with the adapter and there are a lot of people who have Tesla chargers at their homes. The adapters let you use these chargers.

I have this one from Tesla Tap, made specifically for my Lightning.

http://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?r...product_id=174

Allen K

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i second this recommendation. Destination chargers at hotels are usually Tesla only so this will be very handy for longer trips

bitkahuna

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head spinning... but thanks for all the info!

Margate330

Hashtag me to. Haha

I had no idea there were so many products and choices

bitkahuna

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this $#!+'s expensive... adds up

newest adapter from tesla tap is $300

https://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?...product_id=160

AMIRZA786

$300 will pay itself back in a couple of months. I assume you have two years free Electrify America (Hyundai gave it to us), so you'll save money on trips. I paid $500 for a home Level 2 charger, $1000 on a sub panel and 240v circuit install, and both have paid for themselves a long time ago

AMIRZA786

That's all EV's. It's mandatory to generate sound that pedestrians can hear. There was a recall on one EV (can't remember which one) because the sound was too quiet.

My advise (from a guy with 4 EV's ) is to buy an actual charging station, minimum 40 amp, and install a 240v circuit with either 50 amp or 60 amp breaker. Yes, there will be a bit more of an upfront cost, but you will have a faster charging experience, dedicated charging cable with cable management, and it will all pay for itself pretty quickly. Also there is a 30 percent Federal tax credit up to $1000 for charging stations

bitkahuna

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Thanks. what do you mean by ‘actual’ charging station? what I have in my barn IS a 240v dryer hookup. yes I’m working on getting the higher amp one in the garage but I’ve only had the car 3 days lol