Originally Posted by swajames

Have to make sure those per kWh numbers posted are apples to apples comparisons as there are retail rates and member rates, the latter generally being 25% or lower in return for a reasonable monthly fee. It will usually take one decent charge per month to offset the cost of the monthly fee.

Having said that the only thing that keeps rates even somewhat under control is competition. It's all well and good for the industry to broadly go all in on one vendor and leave the others to fade into oblivion, but it's in the consumer's best interests for others to be viable and to compete hard with Tesla. And remember this, if the Disney spat and related Disney+ removal is anything to go by, you are always at risk of someone somewhere upsetting Musk and suddenly your particular brand of vehicle is shut out of the network. Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for.

Originally Posted by LeX2K

Maybe Disney will come out with a charging network and make everyone happy. No one is unhappy using with Disney products and services.

Originally Posted by LeX2K

Maybe Disney will come out with a charging network and make everyone happy. No one is unhappy using with Disney products and services.

Originally Posted by jrmckinley

I don't think that's likely, but each person would have to do the math on how frequently they're using a super charger at that cost. I've had my Tesla 14 months and I have only used a super charger twice in that time (both in the first 60 days of ownership). I plug in nightly and I've seen my home power bill is up about $80/month in the 14 months I've had the car. Comparing that to what I spent on gas in my LS460 (about $400/month) is quite a difference. But I don't care about the savings, I just love the EV driving and ownership experience at this point.

Originally Posted by SW17LS

Even if it costs what it costs to fill a car up with gas, you only do it when you travel.

Still costs me $70-80 to fill mine up.

Originally Posted by jrmckinley

Yeah, I figured you would be somewhere in the $80-$100 range. Premium gas, somewhere around a 20 gallon tank at roughly $4 ish per gallon. Those were my LS numbers.

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

My friend MYLR I have a screenshot somewhere of his electric bill increasing by $185 by him charging solely at home. Now I don’t know much he was spending in fuel on his previous car that took premium gas.

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

My friend MYLR I have a screenshot somewhere of his electric bill increasing by $185 by him charging solely at home. Now I don’t know much he was spending in fuel on his previous car that took premium gas.

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

My friend MYLR I have a screenshot somewhere of his electric bill increasing by $185 by him charging solely at home. Now I don’t know much he was spending in fuel on his previous car that took premium gas.

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

My friend MYLR I have a screenshot somewhere of his electric bill increasing by $185 by him charging solely at home. Now I don’t know much he was spending in fuel on his previous car that took premium gas.

Originally Posted by Mike728

Up by $185/mo? That's crazy! I just looked at our charging costs since we purchased in July. We've spent $190 total, which includes 2 supercharge top-offs. We're currently at 3,600 miles. How much does your friend drive per month?

Originally Posted by jrmckinley

That seems like a lot, but these things vary. My electric company drastically raised their rates early last year, so I initially thought it was costing me way more to charge our Y. As I look back over the last 9-12 months of more stable rates from the electric co, for me it's about $80/month. But if I wasn't paying attention to the rates I would've thought it was more in the $150 range.

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

It's also winter, and electricity usage goes up. I've already hit 1000 kWh usage. With charging 4 electric cars, an electric stove, and general usage, my electric bill this month is around $150. My natural gas bill is higher, at $179. My electric company combines both, so I have to sort through it.

I think your friend may be either misreading his bill or just may have high usage due to winter

Originally Posted by Mike728

Up by $185/mo? That's crazy! I just looked at our charging costs since we purchased in July. We've spent $190 total, which includes 2 supercharge top-offs. We're currently at 3,600 miles. How much does your friend drive per month?

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

This was back in the summer. I have to dig further thru old message to find the $185 increase.

Originally Posted by SW17LS

So he’s driving a ton, this is a Model Y? That’s 8 charges from empty in a month. That’s potentially 2,000 miles driven in a month.

Also note though, look at the gas savings on that screen shot.

Originally Posted by BayeauxLex

‘23 MYLR. I wonder how the gas savings is determined.

I’m quite sure I drive more than 2k miles in 1 month so that’s not surprising to me. I want to say I did close to that on just 1 vehicle last month and not including our other vehicles.