Tesla chargers for non Tesla EVs…what is this going to look like?
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In two years and almost 30K miles, my Polestar only costed me new tires. Our 2020 Ioniq costed us $0 in maint and repair over 3 years and 35K miles
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@BayeauxLex This review from Savagegeese on Toyota hybrids pretty much sums up why I prefer an EV over a hybrid, specifically a Toyota hybrid. I'm not saying hybrids are bad, but they are not fun
. That said, if I were to ever buy a Hybrid, it would only be a Toyota or Lexus
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@BayeauxLex This review from Savagegeese on Toyota hybrids pretty much sums up why I prefer an EV over a hybrid, specifically a Toyota hybrid. I'm not saying hybrids are bad, but they are not fun
. That said, if I were to ever buy a Hybrid, it would only be a Toyota or Lexus
https://youtu.be/tGyYwPITNBQ?si=zwx8ci1NRv8s-Ofn
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So how I ended up with my Rav Prime, I saw how “quick” it was for a commuter in hybrid mode and I could possibly get by without having to use gas around town. When I took delivery I was reluctant to test drive it but my salesman insisted. I put it in hybrid mode, stopped in middle of street, launched it, drove it 1 block, made a u turn and went back to sign the papers. Granted it’s not as quick as some EVs (1 sec slower 0-60 than MYLR) but I never feel/felt it was boring to drive. EV mode isn’t quick by any means but I can hit a button and have a little fun in hybrid mode. I like that option. Toyota, imo, have hybrids figured out.
My wife used to have a RX450h F sport and we test drove a RX 350 F sport back to back and she and I both agreed we liked the smoothness of the hybrid over the non hybrid model. We moved on to a LX 570 but she stated driving the Rav Prime makes her miss driving a hybrid. Maybe in the future there will be a hybrid LX 600. I honestly pitched the idea of an EV to her but she wasn’t interested. Sometimes she forgets to plug in the Rav Prime (mainly I think because she knows it has gas as well) so I know there would be times she would forget to charge an EV. When we rented the Model 3 performance, she drove it without me in the car and she wasn’t moved by it. She actually said she didn’t like it. While she was out she experimented charging at a super charger. I put a deposit on the Rav Prime and Rav hybrid the following week.
If we lived where gas was expensive as it is in California we would have a hybrid AND and EV.
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Great vehicle and perspective. We treats our hybrids as such, point A to point B. I’m never hustling them around town red light to red light. My 3rd gen prius is such a boring vehicle to drive. It doesn’t like to be rushed. But it serves it purpose, efficient commuter. I recently put an aftermarket CarPlay radio and a 10 inch sub in it since I’m not getting anywhere in a hurry in it. 😆 Going back I would’ve bought a Camry hybrid over the Prius for the extra space and peppiness all while achieving the same efficiency.
So how I ended up with my Rav Prime, I saw how “quick” it was for a commuter in hybrid mode and I could possibly get by without having to use gas around town. When I took delivery I was reluctant to test drive it but my salesman insisted. I put it in hybrid mode, stopped in middle of street, launched it, drove it 1 block, made a u turn and went back to sign the papers. Granted it’s not as quick as some EVs (1 sec slower 0-60 than MYLR) but I never feel/felt it was boring to drive. EV mode isn’t quick by any means but I can hit a button and have a little fun in hybrid mode. I like that option. Toyota, imo, have hybrids figured out.
My wife used to have a RX450h F sport and we test drove a RX 350 F sport back to back and she and I both agreed we liked the smoothness of the hybrid over the non hybrid model. We moved on to a LX 570 but she stated driving the Rav Prime makes her miss driving a hybrid. Maybe in the future there will be a hybrid LX 600. I honestly pitched the idea of an EV to her but she wasn’t interested. Sometimes she forgets to plug in the Rav Prime (mainly I think because she knows it has gas as well) so I know there would be times she would forget to charge an EV. When we rented the Model 3 performance, she drove it without me in the car and she wasn’t moved by it. She actually said she didn’t like it. While she was out she experimented charging at a super charger. I put a deposit on the Rav Prime and Rav hybrid the following week.
If we lived where gas was expensive as it is in California we would have a hybrid AND and EV.
So how I ended up with my Rav Prime, I saw how “quick” it was for a commuter in hybrid mode and I could possibly get by without having to use gas around town. When I took delivery I was reluctant to test drive it but my salesman insisted. I put it in hybrid mode, stopped in middle of street, launched it, drove it 1 block, made a u turn and went back to sign the papers. Granted it’s not as quick as some EVs (1 sec slower 0-60 than MYLR) but I never feel/felt it was boring to drive. EV mode isn’t quick by any means but I can hit a button and have a little fun in hybrid mode. I like that option. Toyota, imo, have hybrids figured out.
My wife used to have a RX450h F sport and we test drove a RX 350 F sport back to back and she and I both agreed we liked the smoothness of the hybrid over the non hybrid model. We moved on to a LX 570 but she stated driving the Rav Prime makes her miss driving a hybrid. Maybe in the future there will be a hybrid LX 600. I honestly pitched the idea of an EV to her but she wasn’t interested. Sometimes she forgets to plug in the Rav Prime (mainly I think because she knows it has gas as well) so I know there would be times she would forget to charge an EV. When we rented the Model 3 performance, she drove it without me in the car and she wasn’t moved by it. She actually said she didn’t like it. While she was out she experimented charging at a super charger. I put a deposit on the Rav Prime and Rav hybrid the following week.
If we lived where gas was expensive as it is in California we would have a hybrid AND and EV.
The only hybrid I can say I was totally impressed with was the RX450h. That had a butter smooth drivetrain, I could live with that, but it performs nowhere near my Model Y, and its way less efficient. Although it does have better suspension and better seats. OK, a lot better seats.
You are correct, Toyota hybrids are for going from A to B reliably. They are appliances, same as the Model Y is, but I just enjoy driving the Model Y whereas I didn't really enjoy driving any of the Toyota Hybrids...except the RX450h. But since the Model Y has better performance and efficiency, it's the better choice for me.
As I've said earlier, Toyota/Lexus hybrids are excellent, and extremely well built, efficient and reliable. I would only buy hybrids from Toyota/Lexus, but for the reasons Mark gave near the end are reasons I would rather drive a BEV
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