Lucid Air
#226
EV ftw!!!
#227
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by Hameed
Don't forget they'll go bankrupt as well very soon.
#228
EV ftw!!!
#229
Lexus Test Driver
Lucid will have a hard time being profitable for awhile but they won't have the same challenges as Tesla had. Tesla was first and paved the way for EVs to become mainstream. Lucid doesn't have that specific barrier but their cars have to be better than the competition to compete. Mercedes EQS is very luxurious but slow. Tesla is not that luxurious but fast. Lucid seems to have both those attributes but a big price premium. It will be interesting to see if their value proposition wins over consumers.
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Hopefully the Lucid Air sells well then they can start their expansion into the economic market and drive down costs for all EVs in that market. We're gonna need more EV charging stations to help feed that growing EV appetite, and if the Lucid charging network can work with other EVs that would be great.
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Hopefully the Lucid Air sells well then they can start their expansion into the economic market and drive down costs for all EVs in that market. We're gonna need more EV charging stations to help feed that growing EV appetite, and if the Lucid charging network can work with other EVs that would be great.
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Lucid Air electric cars get official EPA ranges, up to 520 miles
The official numbers are nearly the same as internal estimates
Luxury electric car manufacturer Lucid has been targeting a maximum range of more than 500 miles for the Air sedan for a couple years now. Early testing and internal estimates showed it was possible, and now it has been confirmed by the EPA. The official range for the longest-range Lucid Air is 520 miles on a single charge.
That's specifically for the Air Dream Range with 19-inch wheels. It's one of two special edition models, the Dream Range and Dream Performance. In addition to having a 520-mile range, it's the second-most efficient Lucid, rated with 125 mpg-e. Adding the optional 21-inch wheels drops the range down to 481 miles and efficiency to 116 mpg-e.
The other special edition, the Dream Performance, which gets 1,111 horsepower instead of 933, is understandably less efficient and can't quite go as far as the Range. It's rated with the standard 19-inch wheels at 471 miles of range and 116 mpg-e. Add 21-inch wheels and the range drops to 451 miles and efficiency to 111 mpg-e.The greenest Lucid option so far is the Grand Touring model. It gets 516 miles of range and has a combined efficiency of 131 mpg-e. It's also the slowest model with "just" 800 horsepower.
Also interesting to note is that both the Lucid Air Dream Range and Grand Touring models have better combined efficiency numbers than any Tesla Model S variant. All rated versions are also way more efficient than Porsche Taycan models. And backing up the long ranges is 300-kW DC fast charging courtesy of Lucid's 900-volt system.
Of course, the Lucid models above aren't cheap. The Grand Touring starts around $139,000, and the Dream models start around $169,000.
There are a couple of Lucid Air models that haven't been rated yet, though. The base 480-horsepower Air Pure and the 620-horsepower Air Touring haven't received EPA numbers. Lucid expects to get a range of around 406 miles from each. Considering how close Lucid's estimates were for the high-end versions, we expect those estimates to be accurate.
That's specifically for the Air Dream Range with 19-inch wheels. It's one of two special edition models, the Dream Range and Dream Performance. In addition to having a 520-mile range, it's the second-most efficient Lucid, rated with 125 mpg-e. Adding the optional 21-inch wheels drops the range down to 481 miles and efficiency to 116 mpg-e.
The other special edition, the Dream Performance, which gets 1,111 horsepower instead of 933, is understandably less efficient and can't quite go as far as the Range. It's rated with the standard 19-inch wheels at 471 miles of range and 116 mpg-e. Add 21-inch wheels and the range drops to 451 miles and efficiency to 111 mpg-e.The greenest Lucid option so far is the Grand Touring model. It gets 516 miles of range and has a combined efficiency of 131 mpg-e. It's also the slowest model with "just" 800 horsepower.
Also interesting to note is that both the Lucid Air Dream Range and Grand Touring models have better combined efficiency numbers than any Tesla Model S variant. All rated versions are also way more efficient than Porsche Taycan models. And backing up the long ranges is 300-kW DC fast charging courtesy of Lucid's 900-volt system.
Of course, the Lucid models above aren't cheap. The Grand Touring starts around $139,000, and the Dream models start around $169,000.
There are a couple of Lucid Air models that haven't been rated yet, though. The base 480-horsepower Air Pure and the 620-horsepower Air Touring haven't received EPA numbers. Lucid expects to get a range of around 406 miles from each. Considering how close Lucid's estimates were for the high-end versions, we expect those estimates to be accurate.
#234
I just saw a white one cruising on hwy 85 from south San Jose traveling west towards Los Gatos/Saratoga.
Sorry, but this car is butt-ugly. Plain. Flat. Fat. Strange...
I would call it a bathtub, but that would be a dig on the gorgeous, legendary Porsche 356 series.
No thank you.
Sorry, but this car is butt-ugly. Plain. Flat. Fat. Strange...
I would call it a bathtub, but that would be a dig on the gorgeous, legendary Porsche 356 series.
No thank you.
#235
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It does rather look like a bathtub. The tech and general specs are very impressive though.
#237
I have yet to sit in new S, but I have grown to like Model 3 interior, considering the price.
Best part of Lucid is that technological advancement even when compared to latest Tesla Model S LR. Little bit more efficient, little bit bigger battery and all of that leads to 25% bigger range.
What is not to like?
It is pushing the envelope further... next step is to see the charging curve.
Unfortunately, at least for now, established manufacturers are not pushing the envelope, the pace they are in, they are 5 years behind Tesla. Lucid is now few years ahead.
Best part of Lucid is that technological advancement even when compared to latest Tesla Model S LR. Little bit more efficient, little bit bigger battery and all of that leads to 25% bigger range.
What is not to like?
It is pushing the envelope further... next step is to see the charging curve.
Unfortunately, at least for now, established manufacturers are not pushing the envelope, the pace they are in, they are 5 years behind Tesla. Lucid is now few years ahead.
#238
EV ftw!!!
I have yet to sit in new S, but I have grown to like Model 3 interior, considering the price.
Best part of Lucid is that technological advancement even when compared to latest Tesla Model S LR. Little bit more efficient, little bit bigger battery and all of that leads to 25% bigger range.
What is not to like?
It is pushing the envelope further... next step is to see the charging curve.
Unfortunately, at least for now, established manufacturers are not pushing the envelope, the pace they are in, they are 5 years behind Tesla. Lucid is now few years ahead.
Best part of Lucid is that technological advancement even when compared to latest Tesla Model S LR. Little bit more efficient, little bit bigger battery and all of that leads to 25% bigger range.
What is not to like?
It is pushing the envelope further... next step is to see the charging curve.
Unfortunately, at least for now, established manufacturers are not pushing the envelope, the pace they are in, they are 5 years behind Tesla. Lucid is now few years ahead.
#240
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I just saw a white one cruising on hwy 85 from south San Jose traveling west towards Los Gatos/Saratoga.
Sorry, but this car is butt-ugly. Plain. Flat. Fat. Strange...
I would call it a bathtub, but that would be a dig on the gorgeous, legendary Porsche 356 series.
No thank you.
Sorry, but this car is butt-ugly. Plain. Flat. Fat. Strange...
I would call it a bathtub, but that would be a dig on the gorgeous, legendary Porsche 356 series.
No thank you.
If we could combine tesla exterior with lucid interior...
So lucid's 520 mi. range is the new rallying cry vs the 1.99s 0-60 for tesla.
I did get a chuckle reading the 'slowest' lucid has 800hp